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by creativesoul
Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:45 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

TimeSeeker wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:06 am
Q.E.D There are two dogs in my garden. True or false?
I have no idea. That doesn't matter a bit. We cannot know everything. One ought know what sorts of things can be true/false and what makes them so...
by creativesoul
Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:42 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

You're conflating a true claim with truth. Truth is correspondence. Correspondence is what makes a claim true. A lack of correspondence is what makes a claim false. What is the mechanism for verifying correspondence? It seems to me that in the absence of such mechanism you can't assert the truth of...
by creativesoul
Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

Verification requires knowing what it would take for the claim to be true(knowing what the claim means). And in the case where I don't know what the claim means because I don't understand your taxonomy the experiment provides me with the meaning. Because testing/falsification criteria do exactly th...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

There is no need to use the term "absolute" here. New information discovered in the future cannot prove a true claim to be erroneous. If it is later discovered to be false, then it was never true to begin with. So by your definition truth is unfalsifiable. That's called a tautology. If I can't use ...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

Entirely possible. I don't claim to understand the inner of my brain/mind. And yet you've offered an explanation of that on several occasions... One that you appease you? Probably not. You seem too inflexible a thinker to take it at face value. People who ask me merely want to learn my methods. Bec...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

There is no need to use the term "absolute" here. New information discovered in the future cannot prove a true claim to be erroneous. If it is later discovered to be false, then it was never true to begin with. So by your definition truth is unfalsifiable. That's called a tautology. If I can't use ...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

You said "test/falsify" and you offered a link to verification... there is a significant difference between what it takes to verify a claim and what it takes to falsify a claim. True claims can be verified but not falsified. Any verification is only as good as the test contrived therefore verificat...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

I can't do that in general. i can only do it in context of problem solving. Perhaps it is because you're nothing more than a quite clever program yourself, one that is based upon an inadequate criterion for meaning. Entirely possible. I don't claim to understand the inner of my brain/mind. And yet ...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

You really mean "falsify" do you not? Let me save you the trouble. You cannot falsify a true claim. I said "falsify". That would only be the case if your conception of "truth" is absolute. Absolute truth is a rather foreign notion to scientists. Given that information discovered in the future can a...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:10 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

You really mean "falsify" do you not? Let me save you the trouble. You cannot falsify a true claim. I said "falsify". That would only be the case if your conception of "truth" is absolute. Absolute truth is a rather foreign notion to scientists. Given that information discovered in the future can a...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

The process of bracketing a.k.a phenomenological reduction. I asked you to explain it for me. I can't do that in general. i can only do it in context of problem solving. Perhaps it is because you're nothing more than a quite clever program yourself, one that is based upon an inadequate criterion fo...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

I mean, how about one that determined how to respond by virtue of knowing what it would take for my claims to be true/false? You want ME to decide if YOUR proposition are decidable? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decidability_(logic) Come now. Be serious. You need to put forth suggestions on how to ...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

Somewhat - yeah. I never sought coming to terms with it. I just tripped over my inability to express my mental process when people asked me about it. And they ask me a lot. So I figured I ought to try and make it communicable. Phenomenology helped me make it communicable. I was (am?) a doer, not a ...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

The algorithm you're employing as a means to respond to what I've written is quite loose. How precise a model do you want? Well, one that provides a response based upon more than just synonyms of some words I've used words would be nice. I mean, how about one that determined how to respond by virtu...
by creativesoul
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:37 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 580
Views: 12367

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

:roll: :roll: :roll: The point is I practiced the mental process for 15 years and I tried to (and failed to) narrate it on a number of occasions. Phenomenology gave me the language to call it 'phenomenology' and it helped me narrate it. DOING Phenomenology happened before acquiring the language to ...