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by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:10 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: The Biden Binder
Replies: 644
Views: 15596

Re: The Biden Binder

Walker wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:06 pm Knowing what you know, what do you see?

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A houseplant about to be dug up, stomped on, and then discarded.

Russian horticulture is not pussy-work.
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:02 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: the profit motive in medicine
Replies: 68
Views: 2774

Re: the profit motive in medicine

Sustainable or not, takin' care of one's self and voluntarily helpin' others is the only moral path. Anything else puts makes one into a resource for others, which is immoral . *Once upon a time, this used to be quite obvious the the vast majority. **When, how, and why did people become so incredib...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:28 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

The standard model of quantum physics is that it's not deterministic. It's probabilistic with more than one consequent state being able to follow immediately preceding antecedent states. All that means is: instead of A -> B it's A -> B (or B1 or B2). We call it probabilistic cuz we don't know what ...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:14 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

if an antecedent state A has possible immediately consequent states B and C, so that we're talking about ontological freedom in that situation, it's NOT necessarily the case that B and C each have a equal, 50% chance of occurring. That ain't freedom or free will or bein' free: that's just a coin fl...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:35 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: the profit motive in medicine
Replies: 68
Views: 2774

Re: the profit motive in medicine

Encouraging self-reliance along with charity would go a long way to solvin' that problem. It is the only sustainable path. You cannot make an entire society pay for people's poor health habits. If you want to eat garbage and never exercise, fine, but then you must pay the price. Sustainable or not,...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:11 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Free will is the manifestation of movements through the "I". Yeah, you'll have to dumb it down for me cuz I ain't gettin' it. Movement, thru the I, is free will? You mean self-direction ? If so, determinism, as I understand, sez self-direction is hooey. And if self-direction is hooey then there is ...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

If interpretation is an illusion this requires a degree of free will given one must choose between truth and falsity if one is to be decieved. Determinism, as I understand it, sez I choose nuthin'. My sense of choosin' itself is just a fiction, accordin' to causal determinism. Yet if all is determi...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:45 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

It is not an either/or scenario... *this is a false dichotomy as determinism is an interpretation of events and as an interpretation exists through further grades of this interpretation given interpretations result in further interpretations thus grades. Partial determinism can occur. It may not be...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:37 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Freedom occurs through being. Non being is an absence of freedom as it is nothing, not even being. All being in contrast to Nothingness is free as freedom exists as part of this being. It exists as part of this being given the totality of being, in contrast to nothing, contains within it an element...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:09 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Complete determinism being negated still does not negate certain actions are indeed determined. A leads to B leads to C does not negated what leads to A may in fact be undetermined. If there is one situation in the entire universe that is not determined, then by definition, Determinism is no longer...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:52 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

...phenomena that are standardly thought to be (ontologically) indeterminstic--namely quantum and stochastic phenomena. Well, that's interesting. Now, here is my question about that. I can claim no great originality, but this seems to me to be the right response. (The video is only 3 min. or so lon...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Then you're the first I've met...hello! Okay, now I'm super-interested. How the heck do you manage that, TS? Seems to me, at least at first glance, that Materialism automatically implies Determinism. Can there be another way? I'm not sure why it's so common to think that materialism or physicalism ...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:17 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

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by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:08 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 125
Views: 1184

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

All being is free relative to Nothingness as this freedom of being occurs given it is appearing from nothing. Freedom occurs as an act of being, being purely acts when it emerges from nothing. I'm not sure what being instead of not-being has to do with it. An amoeba exists but I wouldn't say it's f...
by henry quirk
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:56 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: the profit motive in medicine
Replies: 68
Views: 2774

Re: the profit motive in medicine

Please clarify for me how spending other people’s money until it runs out relates to the shortcomings of a prevention-only model. I don’t see the connection that you’re proposing. I don't see any shortcomings in a prevention-only model. Then you should re-read my previous post. There are many more ...