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by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:37 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: the righteous tyrant
Replies: 166
Views: 1090

Re: the righteous tyrant

Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:57 pm
henry quirk wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:53 pm is God the omniscient, benevolent, omnipotent God of the modern deists?

I see him as distant, interested, but uninvolved.

I must an an old school deist.
If there is a God, I hope s/he/it is that too. Some of the other portrayals of him/her/it don't seem so godly.
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by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:36 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Basic Human Rights
Replies: 65
Views: 308

Re: Basic Human Rights

But why would you need the word, "rights," at all for that. It's not what anyone else means. As I say: Me: I just find it cleaner, less ambiguous, to say I belong to me, my life, liberty, and property are mine , and avoid rights altogether ('cept when I get lazy, sloppy, or stupid). Hope you're doi...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:53 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: the righteous tyrant
Replies: 166
Views: 1090

Re: the righteous tyrant

is God the omniscient, benevolent, omnipotent God of the modern deists?

I see him as distant, interested, but uninvolved.

I must an an old school deist.
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:38 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: right to repair
Replies: 17
Views: 145

Re: right to repair

Okay, what would you like to talk about? Right to repair. As I say, I wasn't aware this was an issue. I found this... https://states.repair.org/states/louisiana/ ...when I searched for right to repair louisiana and nuthin' else related to the subject, in-state, popped up. Plenty of hits regardin' t...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:30 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: right to repair
Replies: 17
Views: 145

Re: right to repair

right to repair was a big issue for hospitals who weren't able to fix broken ventilators last year, but they aren't able to repair all sorts of other kit that should be saving lives instead of waiting for a dude with an approved screwdriver to turn up any other time either. As I say, all this right...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:24 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: right to repair
Replies: 17
Views: 145

Re: right to repair

Don't subject me to your stupid ego games, and maybe we can have an interesting conversation. Don't come out of the gate flingin' shit at me if you want conversation. I asked a simple question and you went out of your way to insult me. Fuck that. We can talk...I hoped we could...but not if -- from ...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:11 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Basic Human Rights
Replies: 65
Views: 308

Re: Basic Human Rights

there is no such thing as, "rights." Not in the conventional sense of the word (as in some freefloatin' thing they can grab a'hold to and use). What folks really mean when they say I have a right to X is I have a legitimate claim to X . Looked at this way, when I say I have a right to my life, libe...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:55 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Basic Human Rights
Replies: 65
Views: 308

Re: Basic Human Rights

I don't know. Telling perfectly law-abiding people that they are the cause of all the world's problems isn't exactly just "annoyin" to me. It's akin to throwing verbal rocks. Well, mebbe if age weren't operatin' with a deficit we could say he's bein' malicious, but he does have a deficit , so... We...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:52 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Basic Human Rights
Replies: 65
Views: 308

Re: Basic Human Rights

I guess another thread to my OP: Is there such a thing as "god-given" or "natural" rights? Or are rights things that a society agrees upon based on what it believes it can fulfill for each other? I say man's ownness (that he belongs to himself; that his life, liberty, and property are his) comes fr...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:48 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Basic Human Rights
Replies: 65
Views: 308

Re: Basic Human Rights

Considering all the abuse Age slings out to people whom he quotes out of context, it's quite surprising that he believes in a right "not to be abused." :roll: No doubt he doesn't see it as abusive. To be honest, I don't see it that way either...just annoyin'. I don't know. Telling perfectly law-abi...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:08 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Basic Human Rights
Replies: 65
Views: 308

Re: Basic Human Rights

Do you disagree with the basic human right to not be abused? If I believe individual persons belong to themselves it follows I believe they ought not be abused. Considering all the abuse Age slings out to people whom he quotes out of context, it's quite surprising that he believes in a right "not t...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:06 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: right to repair
Replies: 17
Views: 145

Re: right to repair

The only reason you're asking is so that you can then boast about how you don't see any problems because you're a self-owned blah, blah, blah, who isn't affected by things that other people notice or complain about -- because all that matters or is real is: a) what YOU are foolish enough to believe...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:12 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Basic Human Rights
Replies: 65
Views: 308

Re: Basic Human Rights

What's yours by honest means is yours... How much property does one inherently have a right to possess? If gotten honestly: as much as they like and can acquire. I think everyone has an intuition of what 'honesty' entails, but it is much harder to specify how one acquires property honestly. Can eit...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:47 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: the righteous tyrant
Replies: 166
Views: 1090

Re: the righteous tyrant

If consent can be withdrawn, contracts are worthless, enforcing reciprocationn is impossible, and society must crumble. No. If I contract to provide X for $ and I don't meet my freely accepted obligation, then my customer ought to able to withhold $. We -- me and the customer -- agreed to sumthin',...
by henry quirk
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:14 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Basic Human Rights
Replies: 65
Views: 308

Re: Basic Human Rights

commonsense wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:09 pm I don’t know that we can agree, but I would consider it a basic human right to have access to healthcare.
We don't cuz I don't believe one person has a claim on another's time, labor, or resources.