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by Hugh Nose
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Either Logik is a resident of New York, or Logik is a redisent of London. Logik is not a resident of London. Therefore Logik is a resident of New York. The conclusion is false. How can I tell? Because I don't live in either of those cities. So.. The conclusion is false. How is that possible? The ex...
by Hugh Nose
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

That is a good point. Thus, P1. Either nothing exists or God exists. P2. Something is proven to exists but there is no proofs God exists Therefore, 3. God does not exist. It would be simpler, Whatever exists must be proven and justified. there is no proofs God exists Therefore God does not exist. G...
by Hugh Nose
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:01 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Only because I was using ∧ in the way that I thought you were using it, as "or", and that was my error. Nevertheless, if we use the "and" understanding for ∧, it is still the case that, I inverted them. Intentionally to see how far your nitpicking goes. See my last post. The previous post was a tes...
by Hugh Nose
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

The logical form of "Either nothing exists or God exists." is A ⊻ B ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_or ) The truth table for XOR is as follows: A | B | A⊻B 0 ⊻ 0 ⇒ 0 1 ⊻ 0 ⇒ 1 0 ⊻ 1 ⇒ 1 1 ⊻ 1 ⇒ 0 You insist (a priori) that A⊻B is true so you are discarding two possibilities (50% of the de...
by Hugh Nose
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:38 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Then you should stop teaching people bullshit. According to your argument the truth-table for "Either nothing exists or God exists" is as follows: A B 1 0 True 0 1 True Follows: A ⇔ ¬B (1) LEM states: A ∨ -A ⇒ True From (1) replacing A with ¬B into LEM follows: ¬B ∨ -A ⇒ True Either God doesn't exi...
by Hugh Nose
Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

"A ⇔ ¬B is the same as A ∧ B" is False! "Which is the same as A ∧ ¬A" is False! It is true that A ∧ ¬A is the law of the excluded middle. Cheers, Hugh So, you fail the nitpicker test. ∧ is AND ∨ is OR A ∧ ¬A => False is the law of non-contradiction. A ∨ ¬A => True is the law of excluded middle. Onl...
by Hugh Nose
Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Hugh Nose wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:30 am Don't believe Logik and don't believe me... just check any decent site on the web that discusses propositional logic or check any introductory logic text. Don't do that. All introductions to logic teach Aristotelian (classical) logic. It's broken because t...
by Hugh Nose
Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

You are correct. I made an error. A ⇔ ¬A is not the law of excluded middle. A | B | A⊻B 1 ⊻ 0 ⇒ 1 0 ⊻ 1 ⇒ 1 A ⇔ ¬B is the same as A ∧ B ⇒ 1. Which is the same as A ∧ ¬A ⇒ 1. That is the law of excluded middle. "A ⇔ ¬B is the same as A ∧ B" is False! "Which is the same as A ∧ ¬A" is False! It is tru...
by Hugh Nose
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

The logical form of "Either nothing exists or God exists." is A ⊻ B ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_or ) The truth table for XOR is as follows: A | B | A⊻B 0 ⊻ 0 ⇒ 0 1 ⊻ 0 ⇒ 1 0 ⊻ 1 ⇒ 1 1 ⊻ 1 ⇒ 0 You insist (a priori) that A⊻B is true so you are discarding two possibilities (50% of the de...
by Hugh Nose
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Belief in the Supernatural
Replies: 10
Views: 537

Re: Belief in the Supernatural

I am looking at this thread for the first time, so it will take me a bit of time to catch up. At this point I am curious about your statement, We know that the bible is not literally true - we know that from scientific observations, investigations or just pure and simple logic. Just take any of the ...
by Hugh Nose
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:03 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

A deductive argument is said to be valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false . Otherwise a deductive argument is said to be invalid Deduction pertains to that which is definitely true so all deductive argume...
by Hugh Nose
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:57 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Either Hugh Nose is a resident of Delaware or Hugh Nose is a resident of Pennsylvania. Either Logik is a resident of New York, or Logik is a redisent of London. Logik is not a resident of London. Therefore Logik is a resident of New York. The conclusion is false. How can I tell? Because I don't liv...
by Hugh Nose
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Validity and Soundness A deductive argument is said to be valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false. Otherwise, a deductive argument is said to be invalid. A deductive argument is sound if and only if it is ...
by Hugh Nose
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

I have no idea what you mean when you call the argument a truism—can you explain this, please! Given the structure of your argument, anything you put after the comma in P1 is true. In this case. You are from Mars. Clearly you can’t mean that one can prove anything with a “sound argument”, since tha...
by Hugh Nose
Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?
Replies: 76
Views: 3498

Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

What feedback are you expecting to receive exactly? P1. Either nothing exists, or Hugh Nose was born on Mars. P2. Something exists. C. Therefore, Hugh Nose was born on Mars. The argument is absurd because it can be used to prove anything. It's a truism. I have no idea what you mean when you call th...