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...what do you think time is? Well, it has different definitions. What sort are you looking for? You could say it's the interval in traversing between two points. That's a technical and geometric definition. You could say it's a measure of the rate of entropy. That would be a scientific one. You co...

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:08 pm

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:17 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:32 pm
Do you think a fraction of 1 is still 1?

I'll take that as a yes.

I'll take that as utter mathematical incompetence.

On the plus side, I can speak English.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:32 pm

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:01 pm Do you not think a fraction of a change is a change?

Do you think a fraction of 1 is still 1?

I'll take that as a yes.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:58 am

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:35 am All you need for time is one change.

A whole change? A half, a quarter, a third, or an infinitesimal part of a change won't do?

Do you not think a fraction of a change is a change?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:34 pm

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:35 amIf your god changes his actions, then there is before and after and he is subject to time.

No, I don't agree.

I'll go through your other issues, but so this doesn't get lost: what do you think time is?

God certainly changes His actions. Then he doesn't transcend time. I can't get your reasoning there. You'll have to explain that, Will. All you need for time is one change. For any change, there is before and after. If your god changes his actions, then there is before and after and he is subject t...

That's not a change in God. Ah, no change, no choice; so it's God who doesn't have freewill. You're mixing up two different things again, Will: change of action, and change of character. God certainly changes His actions. Then he doesn't transcend time. What the claim is, is that God doesn't change...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:16 pmThat's not a change in God.

Ah, no change, no choice; so it's God who doesn't have freewill.

You say God knows everything that is going to happen, but that is only possible if the future is fixed. You're using a linear timeline. God isn't within time...He transcends it. As Isaiah says, he spans the entirety of time. That's not the same as transcendence. If your god exists, he clearly is su...

Tacit or intuitive judgments in science are reliable because they are grounded in a theoretical tradition (itself partly tacit) which is, as a matter of contingent empirical fact, relevantly approximately true. But I would want Willy B's view on the matter of the 'relevantly approximately true' par...

...what I "know" doesn't "coerce," because it doesn't "make" anything. That is in part because you are not God. If it is the case that God made the world, then when he was deciding which, of an infinity of possible worlds to create, in full knowledge of everything that...

When I use the word "coercion," all I'm signifying is the belief that an external force (we could say it's God, or material causality, or even quantum mechanics) is supposed to be the real, ultimate, final explanation for what human beings do. In fact, anything other than the explanation ...

If you know that there is no coercion from God, then Theistic Determinism is dead, of course. Something is getting lost in translation because determinism doesn't equal coercion where I'm from. If I wind my watch, I know enough about clockwork that if I were to examine each component, I could tell ...

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:15 pmWhy do you care why you should care?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:34 pmAs you can see Will, all he does is troll and the take a series of dumps on the thread contibuting nothing.

Have no fear Sculptor, I know exactly what Septick is.