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by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 10:45 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

Age wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:15 am But you, human beings, did not 'make up' the Universe, which is what actually proves things.
It is not possible to prove anything about the physical universe. Therefore, claiming that something is not provable about it, is an empty claim.
by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 10:43 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

But, even if they are 'provable', neither of them proves what you are trying to say and claim about 'multiverse'. The arithmetical multiverse is provable. The physical multiverse is not. I am only trying to point out the possibility of structural similarity. Your claim that there are no multiverses...
by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 8:35 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

And, how is the impossible structural similarity between a made up 'arithmetical universe' and the actual Universe, Itself, got to do with heaven and hell supposedly not being just illusory? In religion, heaven and hell are portrayed as nonstandard physical universes. Our universe is the standard p...
by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 6:37 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

It could be said and argued that there are multi-verses within the Universe, Itself, but any talk of 'universes' within 'a multiverse' is just a self-contradiction and an oxymoron, to say the least. What you are arguing, is in denial of the completeness theorem and the compactness theorem, which ar...
by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 6:18 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

But, how does this relate to trying to prove that 'God exists', through mathematics, and/or how heaven and hell are not just illusory? This post is not about proving that God exists. It is not about Gödel's ontological proof. It is about the possible structural similarity between the arithmetical m...
by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 3:38 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

We all also understand that you should not be telling people in the so-called "west" how things should be, when you choose to live in another part on earth. But, this obviously does not stop you. I am not "telling people in the so-called "west" how things should be". I...
by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 2:56 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

Okay. Would you like to draw the exact line, 'for us', where 'you' would like 'us' to construct and build the 'iron curtain', 'for you'. In the meanwhile, Vladimir Putin and the Russian Federation have emerged as the leader of the free world. Who cares if this actually could even occur? Vladimir Pu...
by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 2:38 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

Okay. Would you like to draw the exact line, 'for us', where 'you' would like 'us' to construct and build the 'iron curtain', 'for you'. In the meanwhile, Vladimir Putin and the Russian Federation have emerged as the leader of the free world. We should turn BRICS+ into a fully-fledged military alli...
by godelian
Fri May 03, 2024 1:08 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

Sculptor wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 3:20 pm You do not know enough about the rest of the world to know how things work. SO..
Do you live in SE Asia? I do. So, what exactly is it that you know about SE Asia that I don't know?
by godelian
Thu May 02, 2024 3:16 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

You do not know enough about the rest of the world to know how things work. SO... Well, you didn't know how things works in Islam, but apparently, you still believe that you "know enough about the rest of the world to know how things work". Islamic law works perfectly fine for me. I have ...
by godelian
Thu May 02, 2024 1:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

How the fuck can you prevent divorce without law. The Catholic Church does not have a divorce procedure. So, you can part ways, but as far as the church is concerned, the marriage still exists. Please Google some anthropology. It is a common term. Other languages have a specific word for it. Englis...
by godelian
Thu May 02, 2024 12:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

No it does not. Marriages that are legally instituted involve the law wherever and when ever they were. No, the Catholic Church was dealing with marriage before the French Revolution. They didn't allow divorce. So, the situation was like in the Philippines today. Before the Church took control over...
by godelian
Thu May 02, 2024 11:39 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

But you cannot expact the state to not get involved in a system of contracts that are legally binding. That is how it works outside the West. No government involvement. That is also how it used to work in the West before the French Revolution. There is no problem in the world that the government wo...
by godelian
Thu May 02, 2024 10:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

What is their "divorce-rape system" exactly? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Divorce%20rape I will never get married because I watched my dad get divorce raped. He gave my mom the houses, cars, kids, and took on all the family debt to preserve the assets for us. My mom sti...
by godelian
Thu May 02, 2024 8:31 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 196
Views: 2632

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

What you are proposing is driven by evil impulses which are grounded in immutable religious doctrines. There is no problem in the world that the government won't make worse. After 250 000 C14 years of staying out of private family matters, the ruling mafia in the West decided that they would hencef...