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by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:19 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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They're into silencing, deplatforming, bullying, harassing, doxing, parading, threatening, slandering, screaming, rioting, and burning and bludgeoning. Not all ideologies, beliefs and religions will go that far. America, Europe too, has an extensive rail system. These wokies must be herded into rai...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:06 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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No, the so-called Woke Left isn't uniquely American. We find it in Europa, Australia, and New Zealand as well. Yes, I guess that is right. My question is: I wonder if that Hyper-Liberal and Hyper-Liberalism (my term and one I think gets closer to a workable definition) originated in America and in ...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:56 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:39 pm … and that seems like a valid point.
That’s manners. Not points.
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:27 pm I mean, you have valid points also and are part of the overall conversation, that is for sure. We all are.
Mr Get-Along ….

In my view you are not willing to see into the core, the operative core (of Christian Zionism).

Name those “valid points”.
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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However, what surely doesn't make any proper sense is to equate the Woke Left's birth with the birth of Marx (in 1818). The so-called Woke Left (uniquely American is it not?) is a social and cultural phenomenon best understood (it occurs to me) through the term pastiche . It is uniquely postmodern ...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:11 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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“Woke” is a vague term, too vague to be of much use. It is a fighting word. It's the chosen honourific of the movement. They're proud of it, as the OP suggests. So the "fight" is being picked by the Woke, not by their doubters. You cannot be relied on to offer any reasonable perspective i...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:10 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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In any case however we must separate American progressive lefty •wokeness• from the discussion of Israel. However, I am not myself closed to examining the recent activism by the hordes on the US campuses through a critical lens. Nor am I opposed to examining the ever-present issue which revolves aro...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:01 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

Re: WOKE and proud of it....

“Woke” is a vague term, too vague to be of much use. It is a fighting word.
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:33 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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All of this pseudo-conversation seems to me to be grounded in bullshit . There is an expression that is used these days: "Saying the quiet part out loud". Generally they mean that someone, despite themselves, reveales a truth that was supposed to remain concealed. Ooops . Someone says the ...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:20 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

Re: WOKE and proud of it....

There are perhaps others here who desire to play with you within your ridiculously concocted games, but as I have said I am not interested.

What interests me is seeing and talking about the games.
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:40 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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Here, you latch onto a term because it allows you to keep from dealing with 1) Iwannaplato’s truth-laden picture and 2) my admonition that you are going to have to deal inside yourself with the actual reality on the ground there. Again: cede no ground , IC. If you do you’ll find yourself in the thic...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:29 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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Who's "indigenous" to that property, and whose rights should we be affirming? Presently, there are 7 million Arabs and 7 million Israelis on that land. “And no one is going anywhere” as an Israeli woman recently said. You can get sidetracked with terminology if it suits your interpretive ...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:21 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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Will you deal head-on, can you deal head-on and honestly with the picture Iwannaplato presented? See this is what I mean: seeing and understanding the truth (reality) and responding morally to it, is your task. And if you cede any ground here — you well understand — you will find yourself in the thi...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:50 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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"Indigenous"? The problem is that "indigenaity" is in the eye of the beholder. Why would we prioritize the more recent Arab residents of the area, who also sold their land to the Jewish settlers at considerable profit then decided they wanted it back, over the ancient Jews who i...
by Alexis Jacobi
Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WOKE and proud of it....
Replies: 402
Views: 4523

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So "Woke" is too broad, but "Zionist" works for you? "Woke" is "binary," but "Zionist" is not? The term Zionist and Zionism are not in any sense -- in any sense! -- comparable or equatable with the term *woke* and *wokism*. Once again, my use of the...