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The 'Universe', when defined as all-there-is, totality, or everything, at any given moment is made up of, exits as, or is either, one of four things. 1. One infinitely compressed solitary singular piece of matter, which is infinite in size. 2. One infinitely compressed solitary singular piece of ma...

Then my answer is that as far as I can tell, I'm not agreeing with you, or with anybody else who makes such a statement: but maybe I am, depending on what is intended by the poser of the question. After all, I did not ask you to agree with me or anyone else. In that case, "agreeing" isn't...

I'm agreeing with you . NOT WITH ME , Then my answer is that as far as I can tell, I'm not agreeing with you, or with anybody else who makes such a statement: but maybe I am, depending on what is intended by the poser of the question. After all, I did not ask you to agree with me or anyone else. Fo...

No, you're asking me to agree with your statement, that matter "obeys" God, without specifying what it is you mean. And since I don't know what you mean, I'm not able to know whether or not I agree. Once again, do you agree that matter obeys God in the sense in which You understand this o...

, how can they tell you whether or not they agree with your statement? I'm not stating anything, I'm asking Your opinion. No, you're asking me to agree with your statement, that matter "obeys" God, without specifying what it is you mean. And since I don't know what you mean, I'm not able ...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:53 pm

Janoah wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:39 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:39 pm
So your question is "does matter obey God"? In what sense "obey"?

"obey" in the sense as You understand it.

, how can they tell you whether or not they agree with your statement?

I'm not stating anything, I'm asking Your opinion.

"Follows"? In what sense does matter "follow" anything? I still can't understand what you're asking. "Follows" - in the sense of obeying. So your question is "does matter obey God"? In what sense "obey"? "obey" in the sense as You understa...

Could you put that in Standard English, or in more explicit terms, so I can understand your question? Do you agree that matter follows God? "Follows"? In what sense does matter "follow" anything? I still can't understand what you're asking. "Follows" - in the sense of ...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:17 pm

Janoah wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:55 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:20 pm
I'm glad to have helped.

Okay, now next question,
is he God who is followed by matter?

Could you put that in Standard English, or in more explicit terms, so I can understand your question?

Do you agree that matter follows God?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:20 pm

Janoah wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:09 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:36 pm "Enough" for what?

For me, you have answered my question sufficiently.

I'm glad to have helped.

Okay, now next question,
is he God who is followed by matter?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:36 pm

Janoah wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:39 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:21 pm
You misunderstand what "natural law" means, then.

Once again, it is enough that You agree that matter follows natural Law.

"Enough" for what?

For me, you have answered my question sufficiently.
You agree that matter follows natural Law.

So it turns out that it is your view, not mine, that denies natural law. For the next billions of years, it is enough that you agree that matter follows natural Law. And then, we'll see. You misunderstand what "natural law" means, then. Once again, it is enough that You agree that matter ...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:03 am

Janoah wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:08 pm

Sure.

Thanks, that's good.

So it turns out that it is your view, not mine, that denies natural law.

For the next billions of years, it is enough that you agree that matter follows natural Law. And then, we'll see.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:08 pm

Do you agree that matter follows natural Law?

Sure.

Thanks, that's good.

Matter is contingent and entropic: scientifically, we can see that it's not eternal. First of all, there is no proof of "Heat death of the universe", and it is unlikely there will be, It should be expected that an isolated system fragmented into subsystems does not necessarily come to the...