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by Satyavan
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

But of course it is. You experience your body, it is part of the experience. Think about it. I am thinking about it. I am almost certain (short of willing to actually try it) that if my head was removed from my body my 'experiences' would stop. That is not the real point, we don't need to question ...
by Satyavan
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

I don't know how to define "argument", I know the question "what is experience?" does not need an answer because every answer needs experience a priori. It is like trying to characterize milk by cheese. Then why are you asking it? I'm slowly beginning to suspect you are a troll... ;) YOU asked for ...
by Satyavan
Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

P.S What is "an argument" exactly? What is "experience"? I don't know how to define "argument", I know the question "what is experience?" does not need an answer because every answer needs experience a priori. It is like trying to characterize milk by cheese. You can not self-reference because ther...
by Satyavan
Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

I'm baffled. I even can't imagine someone having no problem with that If this is normal to you, fine. But this means to shut down our brains, don't ask questions and embrace a religion. Why are you strawmanning me like that. I AM asking you a question. The questions that I am asking you is "WHY are...
by Satyavan
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

If a couple of marbles in NY collide and cause pigs to fly in Beijing then a couple of marbles collided and caused pigs to fly in Beijing. Why is that a problem to you? Whereas you tell that it is just a causal chain we should no further question. From A follows B and you are happy with that. I'm n...
by Satyavan
Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:57 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

I have no time to reply to all your observations, so I just pick up these ones. One more time: What is: 1. An explanation? 2. A problem? 3. A solution? I don't understand why you are fixed with defining these words? For me these terms are self-evident and do not need further clarification. I can onl...
by Satyavan
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

Precisely. And where does this limitation of logic come from? Lack of knowledge. We don't have better tools. We haven't invented them yet. Whatever knowledge that might be it will have inevitably to be based on consciousness. Knowledge without consciousness is no knowledge at all. The 20th century ...
by Satyavan
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

When you ask a 'Why?' question you can ONLY ever get a causal answer. 'Why does B happen?' because A -> B. That's a limitation of logic. ALL of propositional logic is in the form of "IF A then B". Precisely. And where does this limitation of logic come from? The 20th century positivists tried hard ...
by Satyavan
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

But this is a digression that moves away from this topic or at least would be a subtopic digression that needs more depth by stepping back to logic and metaphysics. Yes, we have gone somewhat beyond the initial topic but the point I'm trying to make is closely related to it. I don't go into each of...
by Satyavan
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

I don't disagree with this in principle. Motive is not relevant to a specific argument but it CAN be. I was just noticing that you were potentially biased because of such potential motive. If one is more motivated for defending some other unspoken argument, they tend to appear as advocating FOR som...
by Satyavan
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

For some reason I get the feeling that you are attempting to get agreement on your favored position to get onto something else? Don't you think we are all affected by a personal bias? Are we not all (more or less unconsciously) conditioned by our ideological background, belief system and unaware us...
by Satyavan
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

That is one person's paper and from what I read (insuffient to determine the actual experiments) the conclusion doesn't follow. If you look this up you will find several other similar accounts. The brain is not cut all the way through and thus communication between them still exists but through mor...
by Satyavan
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

Epileptic patients who have their brains split to stop the seizures split the consciousness in two distinct minds. As far as I know the mind and consciousness remains intact: https://www.uva.nl/en/content/news/press-releases/2017/01/split-brain-does-not-lead-to-split-consciousness.html How could we...
by Satyavan
Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

So, as I understand it, the only reason why dualists discard Descartes is that he believed that mind was all concentrated in the pituitary gland while we know that mind manifests in all the brain areas.
by Satyavan
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:07 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?
Replies: 195
Views: 10546

Re: In what sense is Descartes's dualism wrong?

I rephrase my question.
I'm not looking for arguments for or against dualism. I ask why ***also dualists*** reject Descartes' dualism?