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- Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:14 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
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Re: Up
"Thanks a million Henry for graciously taking all that time to respond to me point by point" :thumbsup: # "you have helped me to see that I need to include a more in-depth explanation of what I am attempting to impart to Others in my opening statement." I misread you that badly?...
- Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:23 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
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Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
We can define a thing most accurately by expressing that it is what it is not. commonsense; A concrete thing is a being-in-itself and fully coincides with itself in an identity A=A; it is fully and wholly coincident with itself and exhibits no hiatus within its being; it is what it is and cannot be...
- Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:08 am
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
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Re: my take
"LAW IS NEITHER OBEYED DISOBEYED NOR BROKEN No person in fact ever determines to act or forbear action on the basis of given published language of law" I agree. When folks mind 'law' it's to avoid 'penalty', not they think 'law' is right or just. # "therefore, language of law, absolu...
- Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:41 am
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
Only nothingness can make a determination. Sartre does not accept free will? We can define a thing most accurately by expressing that it is what it is not. commonsense; A concrete thing is a being-in-itself and fully coincides with itself in an identity A=A; it is fully and wholly coincident with i...
- Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:29 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Sartre accepts free will
More accurately, he said we were 'condemned' to be free. According to him, bein' free was the source of our angst, our dread. I never really agreed with him on that. Henry; You're absolutely correct, condemned to an ineluctable freedom... Well, as I say, I don't really agree with S on that. For one...
- Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:05 am
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
Thanks. Only nothingness can make a determination. Sartre does not accept free will? Richard; Certainly Sartre accepts free will. I recommend you begin a read of Chapter 4 of Sartre's "Being and Nothingness", entitled "Freedom". Beautiful. Duane Duane, This has been a great appe...
- Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:28 am
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Sartre accepts free will
More accurately, he said we were 'condemned' to be free. According to him, bein' free was the source of our angst, our dread. I never really agreed with him on that. Henry; You're absolutely correct, condemned to an ineluctable freedom wherein we must constantly make ourselves via double nihilation...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:54 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
Duane, I don’t understand what you mean. /Richard Richard, As consciousness, which is a nothingness, I am always an elsewhere, i.e., I never ever coincide with myself. I am always not what I am, and, I am what I am not. Whereas, a thing is an identity in the sense that it is fully and solely what i...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:53 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
Duane, I don’t understand what you mean. /Richard Richard, As consciousness, which is a nothingness, I am always an elsewhere, i.e., I never ever coincide with myself. I am always not what I am, and, I am what I am not. Whereas, a thing is an identity in the sense that it is fully and solely what i...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:19 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
the same means that predetermine the criminal's actions -Imp Imp; So, you believe we are not free ? We undergo predestination/predetermination ? Via what ? God ? Duane without freedom of choice, penalty for actions (moral or legal) is unfounded... -Imp Imp; I totally agree with you there. Duane
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:00 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
as the criminals' actions were predetermined, the ways the courts and their agents have been acting was and is predetermined as well -Imp Criminal and Court actions predetermined by what means ? the same means that predetermine the criminal's actions -Imp Imp; So, you believe we are not free ? We u...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:56 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
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Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
However, our jails are overcrowded and law, an identity A=A, cannot get out of itself in order to determine anyone to do or not do anything. Duane Duane, I don’t understand what you mean. /Richard Richard, As consciousness, which is a nothingness, I am always an elsewhere, i.e., I never ever coinci...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:47 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
Law is intended to restrict proscribed actions, and in that sense it is a determinant of actions to take place in lieu of the proscribed. So, yes, determination is negative. Commonsense; If given language of law were indeed a determinant of conduct done in lieu of a proscribed act, no person whatso...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:21 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
LAW IS NEITHER OBEYED DISOBEYED NOR BROKEN No person in fact ever determines to act or forbear action on the basis of given published language of law, and, therefore, language of law, absolutely without originative connection with intentional human action/inaction, can, actually, be neither obeyed,...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:40 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15409
Re: Law is Neither Obeyed Disobeyed Nor Broken
Criminal and Court actions predetermined by what means ?Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:12 pm as the criminals' actions were predetermined, the ways the courts and their agents have been acting was and is predetermined as well
-Imp