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by Zelebg
Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts
Replies: 15
Views: 3189

Re: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts

Skepdick wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:03 am And I am pointing out that what is "self-evident" to you is not a fact. It's an assumption.
It's a matter of semantics, facts by definition. But of course, logic is not self-evident to everyone. Sorry.
by Zelebg
Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:25 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts
Replies: 15
Views: 3189

Re: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts

Skepdick wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:30 pm I am pointing out to you a fact of human reasoning.
I’m pointing to four simple self-evident facts.
by Zelebg
Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts
Replies: 15
Views: 3189

Re: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts

Skepdick wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:29 pm Ontology is epistemology.

You can't say anything ontological if you don't know about it.
You can not have a conversation without some grounding, and conversation can not be meaningful if the grounding is not common. My grounding is simply English dictionary, is there any other way?
by Zelebg
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:57 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts
Replies: 15
Views: 3189

Re: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts

There is no difference between physical and virtual/subjective. In English, things either exist actually or virtually. Subjective / objective is a different category - mine is ontological statement, yours is epistemological. You managed to conflate and confuse three different concepts in one senten...
by Zelebg
Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:55 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts
Replies: 15
Views: 3189

Re: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts

1. How do you know? 2. What is that "something" ? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox ) We know by comparing before and after of external appearance and internal memory. That something is usually referred to as identity or personality. More specifically it is a set of constraints, a kin...
by Zelebg
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts
Replies: 15
Views: 3189

Mysteries of consciousness revealed by simple self-evident facts

When all your molecules change something stays the same, apparently not quite physical, yet surely is real, and therefore that is "virtual entity", by definition. Fact No.01: Personality, identity, ego, self, subject of experience... is a virtual entity. * * * Any doubt here can only be due to not u...
by Zelebg
Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:27 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: My computer is sentient, you can not deny it!
Replies: 70
Views: 4908

Re: My computer is sentient, you can not deny it!

Computers are not sentient or conscious and that's all there is to it. All you get from a computer is a programmed response. Computers don't feel anything. Sentience does not require free will. Besides, your responses are programmed too. You can see what your computer feels and thinks on your displ...
by Zelebg
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: My computer is sentient, you can not deny it!
Replies: 70
Views: 4908

Re: My computer is sentient, you can not deny it!

Belinda wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:35 am There is a long word that means the attribution of sentience to inanimate objects. When poets make use of this idea it's called 'the pathetic fallacy'.
Electrons in the hardware components are pretty animated, like electrons in the brain.
by Zelebg
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: My computer is sentient, you can not deny it!
Replies: 70
Views: 4908

Re: My computer is sentient, you can not deny it!

EVERY thing is relative to the observer. And, how every thing is perceived is relative to the definitions being used. How are 'you' defining the words 'sentient' and 'conscious' here? Consciousness as "subjective experience". Sentience as qualia or minimal element of consciousness, i.e. without fre...
by Zelebg
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?
Replies: 32
Views: 2728

Re: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?

-1- wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:40 am His parents now think he'd be lucky to amount to nothing.
Hahahaaaa! For this laugh, it was all worth it.
by Zelebg
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: My computer is sentient, you can not deny it!
Replies: 70
Views: 4908

My computer is sentient, you can not deny it!

What if I say a PC becomes conscious the moment you connect it with a monitor and it displays some content. Then I can say, look, there it is its qualia right there on the display, that's what it thinks, that's what it feels. It does not feel like we do in terms of pain and desire, but in terms of g...
by Zelebg
Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:28 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?
Replies: 32
Views: 2728

Re: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?

Skepdick wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:18 am If you choose ignorance and intellectual masturbation - say so.
So it appears to you, and yes I choose it. There, I said it. Bye, bye, baby.
by Zelebg
Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:09 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?
Replies: 32
Views: 2728

Re: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?

Goodluck. Master Philosopher. Do some science. You keep making the same stupid point that there is no point talking about this. So what then, you are wasting your time trying to save my time, telling me I should better go fishing instead. Thanks, baby philisopher! I'll consider it, so now there is ...
by Zelebg
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:34 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?
Replies: 32
Views: 2728

Re: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?

Skepdick wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:09 am How do we determine whose theory is right/wrong?
Like with any other scientific theory. And that answers all your questions.
by Zelebg
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?
Replies: 32
Views: 2728

Re: Evolutionary reason for consciousness?

How do you go about asserting whether any particular task does or does not require consciousness if you don't know what consciousness is? According to some theory. The theory I presented, for example, says the task of "planning in advance" requires consciousness. Furthermore, "planning in advance" ...