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by Sculptor
Tue May 11, 2021 4:38 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: An argument against materialism
Replies: 80
Views: 617

Re: An argument against materialism

bahman wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:15 pm
Sculptor wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:57 pm
bahman wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 8:31 pm
And what is consciousness?
It is the energetic field emitted from neural matter. It is what the brain does.
And what consciousness does?
wot
by Sculptor
Tue May 11, 2021 4:38 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 285
Views: 3879

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

Phenomena are not outside. The world is as it is. We make the phenomena. And you think that you "SEE" what is there? Simple as that. No, what happens is that your two eyes focus a 2D image onto the back of your eyes. Hold on. First, you believe both that (a) there are no external phenomena, and (b)...
by Sculptor
Tue May 11, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: An argument against materialism
Replies: 80
Views: 617

Re: An argument against materialism

And what is consciousness? It is the energetic field emitted from neural matter. It is what the brain does. Tcha! Well nobody knows what consciousness really is, which is weird given it's the only thing we know for certain exists. But fuck it, I can go along with this consciousness as energetic fie...
by Sculptor
Tue May 11, 2021 4:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 285
Views: 3879

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

How, if we can't observe anything other than mental phenomena? Take me through your understanding of HOW you perceive things. Nothing novel. If we're talking about vision, for example, reflected light, for example, hits your eyes, your optic nerve sends information/signals to your brain. At least a...
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 9:57 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: An argument against materialism
Replies: 80
Views: 617

Re: An argument against materialism

So the difference between a rock and you is that you have a brain. The brain however is a material object. So if we believe in the emergence of consciousness in the brain, that is due to two things: The type of matter process and the type of matter. Could we agree on these? THe brain is the seat of...
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 9:56 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: How time can only exist at now and yet has a direction?
Replies: 165
Views: 14402

Re: How time can only exist at now and yet has a direction?

What does it mean to be out of the train to you if it leads to death? It's called an analogy. it's not perfect. Death is when you are out of time. Since time was the train, death is the end of the journey. What more are you looking for? To me we wouldn't die when we leave time, I can experience the...
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 9:55 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 285
Views: 3879

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

Terrapin Station wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 7:29 pm
Sculptor wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 6:57 pm We can get to claims about how perception works.
How, if we can't observe anything other than mental phenomena?
Take me through your understanding of HOW you perceive things.
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 6:57 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 285
Views: 3879

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

First off, the "gap" is always predicated on claims about how perception works, but we can't get to claims about how perception works, where the claims have anything to do with actual embodiment in an actual external world, etc., if we can't (accurately) observe the external world. False. All sensa...
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 6:54 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: An argument against materialism
Replies: 80
Views: 617

Re: An argument against materialism

Certainly there must be a brain for a human to have consciousness, but only because consciousness is an attribute of a living organism, and a human being cannot live without one, and, for human beings at least, when the brain does not function there is no consciousness. Not sure why you are using t...
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 2:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 285
Views: 3879

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

It's not whether you think about it as being a problem. It's that it's a logical problem, whether you'd acknowledge that or not. Via my senses. That's what they do; it's what perception does. That is exactly what I am saying. I just have a deeper understanding of the process which, for some reason,...
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 285
Views: 3879

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

I don't have a problem with that, you do. It's not whether you think about it as being a problem. It's that it's a logical problem, whether you'd acknowledge that or not. So describe how you apprehend the external world please. Via my senses. That's what they do; it's what perception does. That is ...
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 1:32 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: An argument against materialism
Replies: 80
Views: 617

Re: An argument against materialism

So the difference between a rock and you is that you have a brain. The brain however is a material object. So if we believe in the emergence of consciousness in the brain, that is due to two things: The type of matter process and the type of matter. Could we agree on these? THe brain is the seat of...
by Sculptor
Mon May 10, 2021 1:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 285
Views: 3879

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

If we can only experience internal phenomena, then the experience of kicking something, and even any notion that one has a leg to kick anything with, is simply internal phenomena and one has no way to even begin to tell that it's not just a fantasy. What else you got? A request for how you personal...
by Sculptor
Sun May 09, 2021 10:22 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: How time can only exist at now and yet has a direction?
Replies: 165
Views: 14402

Re: How time can only exist at now and yet has a direction?

Ok, so my guess was right. So can you get out of this train? You know its not a real train don't you? The train can go faster but it cannot go backwards. Getting off the train means death. Getting to the end of the journey is also death. What does it mean to be out of the train to you if it leads t...
by Sculptor
Sun May 09, 2021 10:20 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: An argument against materialism
Replies: 80
Views: 617

Re: An argument against materialism

So, an rock also has EDC. DO you mean a rock? No a rock does not have a brain. DO you? So the difference between a rock and you is that you have a brain. The brain however is a material object. So if we believe in the emergence of consciousness in the brain, that is due to two things: The type of m...