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Nothing you say hurts. Yeah, you are impervious to constructive criticism. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It is a product of one of your character flaws that you think constructive criticism should be hurtful. I'm thinking it's exactly the other way. Re-working one's core beliefs is alwa...

Having given it some thought I'm soon (but not just yet) going to call you a clown. It won't hurt either. Nothing you say hurts. Yeah, you are impervious to constructive criticism. Have you considered giving it some thought before you respond? I thought about it. And the answer is "No".

The act precedes the words men give them. And the thought precedes the act. The word supersedes the thought and precedes the act. I am going to kick you! Don't worry Lorikeet, it won't hurt. Having given it some thought I'm soon (but not just yet) going to call you a clown. It won't hurt either.

Lorikeet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:33 am The act precedes the words men give them.

And the thought precedes the act.
The word supersedes the thought and precedes the act.

I am going to kick you!

Lorikeet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:33 am

Goethe wrote: In the beginning there was the action.

...not the word, the act came first.

Could you act this out, instead of telling us?

Also, there's no difference between speech and action through the lens of speech-act theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_act

even if each bit of memory represented one number in the infinite chain, there are a finite number of bits -Imp I only need 1 bit. It can represent anything. Say - all numbers. If you don't like that representation, it's probably because you care about something other than representing stuff... Coi...

Does it even matter? Yeah. It does. If all of these symbols are "nothing more than representations" - you can't seem to explain how information moves from A to B. It's funny that you write "You don't know what a Bitcoin transaction is". Is that because you have managed to make m...

How many times do I need to repeat that we can only ever deal with one of the many alternative representations of a piece of information? Repeat it as many times as you want - I don't care. I am asking you WHERE the information is. Maybe you want to change your song, who knows? What is physically s...

Listen, imbecile. zcash, bitcoin, a good old-fashioned relational database; or even just writing to a text file - you have NO idea what a transaction is. Hey stupido, this is an example Bitcoin transaction: { "result": { "txid": "6b029135dcbff2c9bba177b3875542c1a5d0c8ffa6f8...

I understand the Bitcoin protocol like the back of my hand, idiot. Listen, imbecile. The zcash protocol avoids disclosing publicly the information in a zcash transaction which is equivalent to a Bitcoin transaction. The payer instead provides zero knowledge proof that the information exists instead...

Are you really this dumb; or yes? Is there; or isn't there a point in time at which the transaction is considered pending? Is there, or isn't there a point in time at which the transaction is considered completed? Is there, or isn't there a point in time prior to which the destination address/walle...

zcash is also a two-party system. There is a prover (payer) and a verifier (a node). The payee is not involved in the process. No, it isn't. There's the control plane also. The blockchain which keeps record of WHERE anything is. What updates it? Same as in Bitcoin. The winning miner. In the protoco...

You are conflating a multi-party system (zcash) with a two-agent system (this dialogue) zcash is also a two-party system. There is a prover (payer) and a verifier (a node). The payee is not involved in the process. No, it isn't. There's the control plane also. The blockchain which keeps record of W...

So you know WHERE it's going? And you know WHAT is going? I am not an expert on zcash. The last time I read up on the protocol is years ago. The prover knows where it is going. The prover does not reveal where it comes from. The prover knows the amounts involved but does not reveal them. The zero-k...

If you cannot know WHERE the money is coming from and you can't know WHERE the money is going how can move anything from A to B? The prover knows where it is going but he does not reveal where it comes from. Not sure if he even needs to know this So you know WHERE it's going? And you know WHAT is g...