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even if each bit of memory represented one number in the infinite chain, there are a finite number of bits -Imp I only need 1 bit. It can represent anything. Say - all numbers. If you don't like that representation, it's probably because you care about something other than representing stuff...

Does it even matter? Yeah. It does. If all of these symbols are "nothing more than representations" - you can't seem to explain how information moves from A to B. It's funny that you write "You don't know what a Bitcoin transaction is". Is that because you have managed to make m...

How many times do I need to repeat that we can only ever deal with one of the many alternative representations of a piece of information? Repeat it as many times as you want - I don't care. I am asking you WHERE the information is. Maybe you want to change your song, who knows? What is physically s...

Listen, imbecile. zcash, bitcoin, a good old-fashioned relational database; or even just writing to a text file - you have NO idea what a transaction is. Hey stupido, this is an example Bitcoin transaction: { "result": { "txid": "6b029135dcbff2c9bba177b3875542c1a5d0c8ffa6f8...

I understand the Bitcoin protocol like the back of my hand, idiot. Listen, imbecile. The zcash protocol avoids disclosing publicly the information in a zcash transaction which is equivalent to a Bitcoin transaction. The payer instead provides zero knowledge proof that the information exists instead...

Are you really this dumb; or yes? Is there; or isn't there a point in time at which the transaction is considered pending? Is there, or isn't there a point in time at which the transaction is considered completed? Is there, or isn't there a point in time prior to which the destination address/walle...

zcash is also a two-party system. There is a prover (payer) and a verifier (a node). The payee is not involved in the process. No, it isn't. There's the control plane also. The blockchain which keeps record of WHERE anything is. What updates it? Same as in Bitcoin. The winning miner. In the protoco...

You are conflating a multi-party system (zcash) with a two-agent system (this dialogue) zcash is also a two-party system. There is a prover (payer) and a verifier (a node). The payee is not involved in the process. No, it isn't. There's the control plane also. The blockchain which keeps record of W...

So you know WHERE it's going? And you know WHAT is going? I am not an expert on zcash. The last time I read up on the protocol is years ago. The prover knows where it is going. The prover does not reveal where it comes from. The prover knows the amounts involved but does not reveal them. The zero-k...

If you cannot know WHERE the money is coming from and you can't know WHERE the money is going how can move anything from A to B? The prover knows where it is going but he does not reveal where it comes from. Not sure if he even needs to know this So you know WHERE it's going? And you know WHAT is g...

Unless you want to convince me that zcash does double-entries without reconciling them. It is not possible for the outside observer to reconcile double entries. So, the basis of the privacy properties of Zcash is that when we spend a note, we only prove that some commitment for it had been revealed...

strings are more free? if there are a finite number of memory spaces created (as huge a number as that is) within all the connected computing devices, how could a number that is infinite actually fit? -Imp Suppose there is a finite number of memory spaces. Suppose there's a single address even. Sup...

In zero-knowledge arguments only one side has zero knowledge. The side that expects the proof. The side doing the proving has non-zero knowledge. Look at how the zcash protocol works. The prover has no clue as to where the money comes from. He knows the amount and where it goes to. The largest part...

Look at how the zcash protocol works. The prover has no clue as to where the money comes from. He knows the amount and where it goes to. The largest part of the message is encrypted even for the prover. He intergrates something that he does not understand into what he is writing. So, a good part of...

Absolutely nothing like it. You don't even know what it is that you are encrypting. You don't even know where it is. So how are you encrypting it? That happens in the brain. It is not known how. Type error. Again. Why do you keep confusing whys, whats, wheres and hows? The data owner knows EXACTLY ...