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- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:38 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
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Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
OK, great! So what does that mean in computational terms? Does x=x mean the computation Equals(x,x) always halts; or never halts? I assume that it halts for finite numbers. It may halt or not halt when dealing with nonstandard models of arithmetic, but I assume the standard model here. This will ha...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:16 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
An inconsistency is easy to specify. For example, if you manage to prove that 0=1, then you have your witness, which is simply the proof. I think the crux of the matter here, is that you have no actual idea what the "=" operator means. The 2nd Peano axiom literally states: For every natur...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:01 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
1) Enumerate a whole bunch of arbitrarily-chosen candidate logic sentences P. 2) Try to prove P. 3) Try to prove not P. isProvable(P) can be encoded. Obviously, isProvable(not P) can be encoded too. So, you can encode this. I did not say that you will find P, but you can clearly try to. Is there ar...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:51 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: God is...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 600
Re: God is...
Is God? A free variable. The placeholder which answers ALL philosophical questions. Greatest hack in the history of human civilization. A sealed door denying access to the infinite abyss of pointless philosophy. A dead end to the infinite "Why? train". Saving you time. Putting YOU first.
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:39 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
An inconsistency is easy to specify. For example, if you manage to prove that 0=1, then you have your witness, which is simply the proof. All you need to do is to discover a poison-pill statement P, prove "P", and then prove "not P". If you manage to do that from PA, then PA is ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:27 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
I don't understand your point in relation to my claim; Numbers by themselves are not mathematics per se. Numbers by themselves are absolutely Mathematics. 1, 2, 3, 4. Numbers paired WITH UNITS are not Mathematics. 1 APPLE 2 APPLES Here's AI's [wR] views. No, numbers by themselves are not considered...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:03 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
If the problem is undecidable, i.e. the search algorithm does not halt, the situation is still fine. The real poison pill is the actual witness. If you find it, it is game over. This amounts to nothing more than self-justification for the paradigm of axiomatics. But that's precisely the problem! Ex...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:01 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Numbers is not mathematics per se. A numeral say 2 by itself is not mathematics which is grounded on its 'proofs'. Stating I have eaten 2 apples has nothing to do with mathematics at all. You really don't seem to have any grasp on the relevance of the formal sciences; and how they have long superse...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:46 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Numbers is not mathematics per se. A numeral say 2 by itself is not mathematics which is grounded on its 'proofs'. Stating I have eaten 2 apples has nothing to do with mathematics at all. You really don't seem to have any grasp on the relevance of the formal sciences; and how they have long superse...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:41 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Yes, that is exactly what Tarski's theory of truth develops in a mathematically unobjectionable manner. Mathematics brings consistency to the matter. That is why it is the superior approach. It does? Prove that Mathematics is consistent. And then prove that the proof-system you are using to prove t...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:13 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Yes, that is exactly what Tarski's theory of truth develops in a mathematically unobjectionable manner. Mathematics brings consistency to the matter. That is why it is the superior approach. It does? Prove that Mathematics is consistent. And then prove that the proof-system you are using to prove t...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:09 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 53
- Views: 516
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Thesis: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic It's like you don't understand anything. Obviously God isn't real. Not everything that exists is real. Therefore, Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic Discuss? What's there to discuss? God exists in the understanding; and you literally don't un...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:01 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
- Replies: 9420
- Views: 799770
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Can 'the answer' be different from what you think or believe it is? Is the question identical with its meaning; or can this question mean something different from what you think or believe it means? Did you want me to answer your question when you did not answer mine? Maybe. Why not? The Universe n...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:07 pm
- Forum: Applied Ethics
- Topic: [b][i]Morality is objective[/i][/b] is not even wrong. It is a statement without any meaning what ever.
- Replies: 19
- Views: 222
Re: [b][i]Morality is objective[/i][/b] is not even wrong. It is a statement without any meaning what ever.
With respect that is not much of an answer. WOuld you care to say something Can't help the fly out of the bottle if it doesn't want to get out... The subjective/objective distinction is getting in your way of thinking clearly. Starting with reality - it contains no such things as "subjects&quo...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:59 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Science
- Topic: Let's talk about parallel universe...
- Replies: 7
- Views: 98