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by philosopher
Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

For all we know, philosopher made a very significant change to the arguments. Defending an argument requires maintaining its actual structure. Therefore, we sort of suspect, without proving anything, that philosopher failed to defend the arguments. Was that too subtle for you? Yes, I'd like you to ...
by philosopher
Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

FlashDangerpants wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:49 pm
philosopher wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:39 pm
Where's the flaws?
I didn't even have to bother reading those. Just look at what you dropped when you rewrote the thing.
What did I drop?
I presented a real-world example of how the argument could be valid.
by philosopher
Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:39 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

Now we're on page 2 and all you do is throw ad-hominem attacks on me, instead of arguing why it is not a logical argument. If you understood philosophy you would realise that not all ad hominem arguments are fallacious, that's just a thing that bozos on the internet believe. Also you would know tha...
by philosopher
Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

I told you what you had missed. No - you didn't. You said: "Neither argument is any good, the second is ridiculous. The purpose of presenting an online poll in this matter is mystifying." But you don't bother to argue why they are not good, and why the second is ridiculous. If you want a philosophi...
by philosopher
Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

I told you what you had missed. No - you didn't. You said: "Neither argument is any good, the second is ridiculous. The purpose of presenting an online poll in this matter is mystifying." But you don't bother to argue why they are not good, and why the second is ridiculous. If you want a philosophi...
by philosopher
Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

Looking at this one: https://www.iep.utm.edu/val-snd/ A deductive argument is said to be valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false. Otherwise, a deductive argument is said to be invalid. I would've thought i...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:00 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

Looking at this one: https://www.iep.utm.edu/val-snd/ A deductive argument is said to be valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false. Otherwise, a deductive argument is said to be invalid. I would've thought it...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

You either don't understand what makes something an argument in a philosophical context, or what makes an argument valid in a philosophical context. Neither argument is any good, the second is ridiculous. The purpose of presenting an online poll in this matter is mystifying. The whole thing looks l...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: The world is getting dumber every second
Replies: 23
Views: 330

Re: The world is getting dumber every second

The reason the Russians wanted Trump to be President is because they wanted to avoid WW111 and Trump seemed like the better option considering his opponent was uber-hawk Hillary Clinton. Is there anything wrong with that? How many foreign elections and Govts. has the US interfered in? They can dish...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: The world is getting dumber every second
Replies: 23
Views: 330

Re: The world is getting dumber every second

The reason the Russians wanted Trump to be President is because they wanted to avoid WW111 and Trump seemed like the better option considering his opponent was uber-hawk Hillary Clinton. Is there anything wrong with that? How many foreign elections and Govts. has the US interfered in? They can dish...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Evil Right Wing Fascism will eventually win
Replies: 49
Views: 349

Re: Evil Right Wing Fascism will eventually win

It is all explained in the link. https://basicincome.org/basic-income/faq/ No it isn't. There's a lot of fluff. Lots of detail on how often and who will get it. No clarity on where the money comes from. Ultimately, as with everything else publicly funded, it is tax money. You work, you pay tax. In ...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

Contributing? Seems to come from left field, that. You need to keep to the argument as it is worded and phrased, otherwise it's a different argument you're looking at. There's no notion of "contributing" anywhere in the argument. Sorry, poor english. I tried to reproduce the argument with my own wo...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 29
Views: 257

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

What did I miss? You either don't understand what makes something an argument in a philosophical context, or what makes an argument valid in a philosophical context. Neither argument is any good, the second is ridiculous. The purpose of presenting an online poll in this matter is mystifying. The wh...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Evil Right Wing Fascism will eventually win
Replies: 49
Views: 349

Re: Evil Right Wing Fascism will eventually win

I am sure. But IF you were already a slave - I am sure you'd rather become free than dead. Sure. But slaves got no choice. It's either stay a slave, or commit suicide. And any attempts of the latter, is severely punished. And where do you get the money for Unconditional Basic Income from ? It is al...
by philosopher
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:47 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Evil Right Wing Fascism will eventually win
Replies: 49
Views: 349

Re: Evil Right Wing Fascism will eventually win

Before you can discuss the difference between things, first you need to be upfront about what you are trying to achieve and what your values are. Why are some differences important? Why are other differences unimportant? Why do you like some ideologies and dislike others? How do you decide which is...