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by Atla
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:26 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

You are such a gnat and ignorant. Show evidence where Indirect Realism do not claim "the external world is absolutely independent of the human mind[s]" If it was absolutely independent, indirect realism couldn't work at all and couldn't make any sense. Unless we employ a lot of magic. Nat...
by Atla
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:26 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: AI's Water Level Effect: e.g. Atla
Replies: 7
Views: 37

Re: AI's Water Level Effect: e.g. Atla

This is of course what happens when an incompetent kindi gnat philosopher like VA can't handle that the initial response of ChatGPT was correct, and tries to manipulate its responses, to get it to say what VA wants it to say, trying to make it accept VA's fundamental fallacy. Note the conclusion to ...
by Atla
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:32 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Note the most glaring difference: space and time. Indirect realism can explain that while absolute space and time are indeed "a priori forms of intuition" that only exist in the mind, the mind is also embedded in a wider, objectively existing reality that actually behaves according to Eins...
by Atla
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:49 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Anyone else, who could actually argue for Kant's position, and not just make noises? Note I had claimed: indirect realism > transcendental idealism Note I had claimed: though once a respectable view, today transcendental idealism is more like for kids. Note [ wR ]: Which is more compatible with esta...
by Atla
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:35 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

The the external world as it really is means absolutely [unconditionally] independent of the human mind[s]. This is also the Kantian positive noumenon. The conceptual framework is the FSC [perceived] which is the sub of the whole FSRC [emerged and realization of reality]. Reality must first be real...
by Atla
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:22 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Indirect realism is broadly equivalent to the scientific view of perception that subjects do not experience the external world as it really is , but perceive it through the lens of a conceptual framework . -WIKI The the external world as it really is means absolutely [unconditionally] independent o...
by Atla
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:00 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

PH's Stupidity: The "Mind" Does not Exist as Real https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40071 PH is too focused on terms, meanings and language, that he is ignorant of what is most critical is the optimal utilities that can be derived from the respective FSRC involved th...
by Atla
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:33 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: FDP has a Cognitive Moral Deficit in Morality
Replies: 100
Views: 1555

Re: FDP has a Cognitive Moral Deficit in Morality

It is very typical, when interlocutors do not have valid and sound arguments to counter arguments posed by others, they will resort to insults, pejorative condemnations and other childish remarks. This is what Trump was and is still doing. This is also what FDP, Atla, IWP and the likes are doing in...
by Atla
Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:43 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Do cut the posturing. Spell out this supposed planet-sized, universal problem to which indirect realism is the supposed solution. Then I'll spell out why you're wrong. What posturing? Spell out the topic that VA has been talking about for 5 years? For the 100th time, it's this: Everything you have ...
by Atla
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Shall we leave abuse to VA and the dick-for-brains? There's no need. Think about it. If there's no substantially separate mind - which we agree there isn't - then there's no problem to how we perceive objects. The mind/body problem is a giant fake issue. Peter Holmes, you have no idea what you're t...
by Atla
Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:58 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Atla, why are you stuck with the fictional problem of direct realism? If it's just brains in objects (bodies) perceiving objects, there's no problem. There are just physical processes. And indirect realism still can't account for how 'the mind' perceives anything? What's the causal mechanism? Has i...
by Atla
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:43 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Who thinks 'the mind' is a separate substance any more? We're long past that. But perhaps you have some evidence for its existence. Absent that, of course, the so-called problem of the direct perception of objects evaporates. And anyway, indirect realism isn't off the supposed hook that direct real...
by Atla
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:31 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Just a thought. If we bin 'the mind', then realism is no longer a problem, and so indirect realism is an unnecessary solution. Denying the mind is a strange form of insanity. Who thinks 'the mind' is a separate substance any more? We're long past that. But perhaps you have some evidence for its exi...
by Atla
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Note [ wi th r es erv a t io ns ]: Was Kant's Transcendental Idealism a response to Naive Realism? Yes, Kant's Transcendental Idealism can be seen as a response to Naive Realism. Naive Realism posits that objects exist independently of the mind and that we perceive them directly as they are. Kant c...
by Atla
Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:58 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 356

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Note [ wi th r es erv a t io ns ]: Was Kant's Transcendental Idealism a response to Naive Realism? Yes, Kant's Transcendental Idealism can be seen as a response to Naive Realism. Naive Realism posits that objects exist independently of the mind and that we perceive them directly as they are. Kant ch...