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by Atla
Sat May 04, 2024 7:08 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9730
Views: 889900

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

After 20k+ comments, his best argument seems to be that morality can't be subjective, because only objective morality can be morality. No. The argument is that Moral Subjectivism fails to deliver any information at all. It fails on its own two legs, so to speak, and needs no input from Objectivism ...
by Atla
Sat May 04, 2024 3:43 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

What if I take a brain scan of someone who is having abstract thoughts, and some brain regions light up on the scan?
by Atla
Sat May 04, 2024 3:25 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 12:42 pm
Atla wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 11:43 am People often come forward with their metaphysical attainments here, I do too sometimes.
What is a metaphysical attainment?
Attaining satori for example, but I don't really know how people use the word metaphysical, there seem to be different meanings in use.
by Atla
Sat May 04, 2024 11:43 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Plato, Aristotle — mere children when I reflect on my own attainments. Could you present your (higher order metaphysical?) attainments? You could not possibly have taken me seriously …. Only half-seriously. People often come forward with their metaphysical attainments here, I do too sometimes. Thou...
by Atla
Sat May 04, 2024 10:51 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9730
Views: 889900

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I don't doubt that a lot of people do think of morality, or certain aspects of it, as something that corresponds to some sort of truth, but the topic is about what morality actually is, not what some people happen to believe it is. Well, we know what it isn't. It isn't "subjective." But t...
by Atla
Sat May 04, 2024 8:14 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:02 pm Plato, Aristotle — mere children when I reflect on my own attainments.
Could you present your (higher order metaphysical?) attainments?
by Atla
Fri May 03, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:02 pm Plato, Aristotle — mere children when I reflect on my own attainments.
:)
by Atla
Fri May 03, 2024 7:47 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Beethoven can hardly be considered a musician. Some of his *music* sounds to me like a garbage truck rumbling over a pot-holed back alley -- and then those caterwauling felines! And all of it ALL OF IT is just noise. I am surprised people don't see through it. All those sentiments, feelings indeed ...
by Atla
Fri May 03, 2024 7:24 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

...they too (at least the more intelligent ones) agreed that "supernatural realness" is just an illusion. They then altogether, in an act of group solidarity, pooped in their drinking water. _______ Pooping in the drinking water is no way to be either, the non-religious will have to find ...
by Atla
Fri May 03, 2024 2:45 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

To say that supernatural realness isn't real, seems absurd? On the contrary. It appears to me that you think like someone who hasn't come into contact with religion and spirituality for the first few decades of his life, and now that you did, it's mesmerizing you. Spirituality is good, but it can't...
by Atla
Fri May 03, 2024 5:22 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

"Higher" intelligence usually arrives at the conclusion that metaphysical authority isn't real, it's nowhere to be found except in the religious books. And higher intelligence usually has a harder time lying to itself, has a harder time pretending that the metaphysical authority exists on...
by Atla
Thu May 02, 2024 8:28 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

The West has been moving away from religion and God (this supernatural "will") for a long time, why would it just turn around now? It is a good question to ask. My answer? Metaphysical authority is real — realness itself. To align with it is a choice of higher intelligence. That “moving a...
by Atla
Thu May 02, 2024 7:27 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Kinda pointless imo to try to make a mostly non-Christian audience unblock/unsever their connection to Christian metaphysics - a metaphysics they either never had to begin with, or rejected. What we call “the Christian metaphysics” would need to be better understood. The core idea though is univers...
by Atla
Thu May 02, 2024 5:41 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 717
Views: 40826

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

My interest, my focus, is in understanding the innermost dimensions of what we call The Christian Revelation. And my interest is in reading and understanding the meaning encapsulated within these theological definitions. Meaning is also extremely metaphysical. When we think about how something, any...
by Atla
Thu May 02, 2024 6:15 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Moral Relativists Condone Killing of Babies for Pleasure
Replies: 8
Views: 193

Re: Moral Relativists Condone Killing of Babies for Pleasure

Huh? You are mixing up the concept that every individual has a (different) set of moral codes to guide themselves in life decisions, with the (erroneous) idea that acknowleging this reality equates to personally agreeing with each and every individual moral code in existence (which is an essentiall...