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by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:55 pm
Forum: Aesthetics
Topic: Music
Replies: 3346
Views: 375336

Re: Music

Christians still wait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnCrkP6sO_k no he ain't. more good ones by her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4HLAWijVqo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRXfpJZxcc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElvbLrrlBW0 just found here last week myself - never heard of here and i was a...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

Genesis 2: 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.” Obviously Man has free will to choose but at the same time he doesn't. Why? ...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

You can check out anytime you like (ignore yourself)....but you can never stay away from what you cannot leave...for there is no other one to stay away or leave you. You stay regardless...else the illusion of staying away and leaving wouldn't be known...as concept...make no mistake. Make belief. . ...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:01 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

-1- wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:30 am
There is no direct quote. Thanks to all who tried to help.
lol ;-)

quite welcome
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

A bible quote is constructed of mental ideas WRITTEN down in the form of words in this conception...meaning anything written is actually unwritten...in other words, anything written or spoken can only be a metaphor, not literal. there is no cultural historical evidence to support your above posit. ...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

1. You did not supply a direct quote that deals with free will. ...in your opinion. That, as I said, is a matter of debate. I think it does. But let's pretend it doesn't, and that you have reason to know it doesn't. Okay. Then every single time the Torah holds man responsible for his own choices, s...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

Welcome to the Hotel California. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. used to like the Eagles (they had talent - and like the Beatles the collective was more than their latter solo works), but corporate radio replayed them add nausiem, but early 80's i just had to turn the ...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

For god, the FUTURE, the NOW, and the PAST are equivalent to the PAST, so he has no choices at all. I think it full folly to try to understand "god"/"the gods"(I assume he does not exist - hope i'm wrong and He is good also - but irrelivant to my existance here and now - so do not strive to a fool ...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

I not only believe Ramu, but I am on the same opinion. No, you're not. You never had an opinion in your life. None of us did. Instead, we just "danced to our DNA," as Richard Dawkins puts it. So you don't think , anymore than a rock has to "think" to fall off a mountainside. Like it, you are merely...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

...a word from anyone who knows a bible quote Already sent to you, on the last strand. Did you miss it? Genesis 1. I missed it. What's a "strand"? Which is the last one of those? I know the last of the Mohikans, but not the last of the strand. Please send me the same text that you sent me on the la...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.
Replies: 52
Views: 459

Re: "Free will was given to man by god." Attempt 2.

I may have been too wordy in my previous topic start. Please note: What I am after is information on the specific bible quote that a. Says that man was given free will by god or else b. says something that christians interpret directly from, and use as a reference, to support they believe god gave ...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 111
Views: 1034

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Nick wrote: A wise teacher invites the question "what is consciousness." The answer is we don't know but we are invited to experience and contemplate it. Not only do most well informed enquirers know what they mean by consciousness, they do? I don't. even though a Solipsist - and so assume i am alo...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 111
Views: 1034

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

nope about the Tok NOT being the same thing as ToW. from simply reading of Genesis one can equate the ToK as giving man "Self awarness".............and so wisdom. Simply read, and you'll see... Gen. 2: 9 -- "The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the...
by gaffo
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 111
Views: 1034

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

No, it's the opposite. Evolution is, by definition, gradualism produced by natural causes. Resurrection is instantaneous, and caused by God. Maybe. But they're not Christian, then, by the Apostle Paul's definition. He regarded the resurrection as a sine qua non of Christianity, as you say in the su...
by gaffo
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 111
Views: 1034

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Not at all. He's describing resurrection...quite a different thing, I think you'll find. Check the context, and you'll see for sure. But the resurrection is the evolution of one quality of being into a higher quality of being. No, it's the opposite. Evolution is, by definition, gradualism produced ...