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by thought addict
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:27 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

And considering that you guys are the ones using the word "consciousness" for like at least 5 different things and don't notice it.. This whole thread is about the "Hard problem of consciousness", therefore we're concerned with only those aspects of consciousness that entail the...
by thought addict
Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: How do we form thought?
Replies: 4
Views: 1803

Re: How do we form thought?

If a human grows up isolated from other human contact, do they develop their own language? In other words, is language an instinctive, genetic skill for humans or is it predominantly something that is learned from others?
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

I also read about Alan Watts who I gather attempted to ground it in a more modern context and reconcile it with science. In several of his later publications, especially Beyond Theology and The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are, Watts put forward a worldview, drawing on Hinduism, Chine...
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

Anyway I described everything as well as I can right now. If some of you get into nondualism, you will gradually realize how I meant what I meant. One can learn nondual thinking from Alan Watts, if you can ignore his life-is-play-and-rainbows crap. Thanks for the reference. I've just read some onli...
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:23 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

There is only one first person view, shared by all brains/minds and also shared by everything else in reality, because all that IS reality. It's not literally a view as in vision, it just means that we are reality itself. There is only one hotel, shared by all guests in the world and also shared by...
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

There is only one first person view, shared by all brains/minds and also shared by everything else in reality, because all that IS reality. It's not literally a view as in vision, it just means that we are reality itself. There is only one hotel, shared by all guests in the world and also shared by...
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: What is the difference between property and entity?
Replies: 12
Views: 3537

Re: What is the difference between property and entity?

Information never exists directly in the physical world. Why do you think there is any difference between physical and mental properties? For the dualist, an obvious difference between the physical and mental is the distinction between the first person experience of qualia and an objective observat...
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

If you take the view that there is some kind of physical (or external) world, then there clearly are two kinds of experiences. The first-person-view is not just "yours", it is universal. The first-person-view means that we are reality itself, in "first person", what else could w...
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:27 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Experiencing of experience
Replies: 12
Views: 4907

Re: Experiencing of experience

It is possible since all that is required are a mind which is the function of a brain and a physical body to have experiences No, first person consciousness is apparently more than the function of a brain because all brain functions can be explained just fine from a third person perspective. Brain ...
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:00 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: What is the difference between property and entity?
Replies: 12
Views: 3537

Re: What is the difference between property and entity?

The important thing is that to the dualist, the mental side is just as real as the physical. if we see one or few molecules, this is physically real. And If we see googols of them? There is some staff(isn't it physical?) we label it "water", "ice" or whatever. Can't see differen...
by thought addict
Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:35 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

There aren't two kinds of experiences. The "content" of your experience does not have a magical reality of its own. You can't literally make an extra reality out of subjectivity. If you take the view that there is some kind of physical (or external) world, then there clearly are two kinds...
by thought addict
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:06 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

But then Descartes forgot to doubt one last thing: does this happening really require two components? The guy broke his own logic. Physical things move about, they break apart or combine and they interact with forces. None of those things have anything to do with having an experience. Ergo, we need...
by thought addict
Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:03 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

But under Many Worlds, how do you represent which world a self is currently in without invoking dualism? A conscious observer will trace a path through the worlds. They see wave function collapse as if they are in one particular world. Don't you need dualism to pick that one specific world out of t...
by thought addict
Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 97798

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

But under Many Worlds, how do you represent which world a self is currently in without invoking dualism? A conscious observer will trace a path through the worlds. They see wave function collapse as if they are in one particular world. Don't you need dualism to pick that one specific world out of th...
by thought addict
Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Compatibilism is impossible
Replies: 13
Views: 4442

Re: Compatibilism is impossible

Everything people do they do for a reason, even if that reason is emotions, a whim, or deciding to deliberately behave oddly (perhaps to prove they have free will). The reasons are all based on information from the senses combined with feedback loops in the brain. As long as there's no randomness, i...