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by Peter Holmes
Wed May 08, 2024 11:33 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9993
Views: 914298

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

1. The killing of humans [especially impulsively and arbitrary] is a moral issue. No. it's not - unless we assume (in this case) moral wrongness. So this premise begs the question. 2. Malignant psychopaths who kill humans [immoral] on impulse has some sort of damaged or abnormal brain the the major...
by Peter Holmes
Wed May 08, 2024 10:58 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9993
Views: 914298

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

1. The killing of humans [especially impulsively and arbitrary] is a moral issue. No. it's not - unless we assume (in this case) moral wrongness. So this premise begs the question. 2. Malignant psychopaths who kill humans [immoral] on impulse has some sort of damaged or abnormal brain the the major...
by Peter Holmes
Wed May 08, 2024 10:49 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

All your above are strawman[s]. I have already explained a million times re how reality emerges; Reality: Emergence & Realization Prior to Perceiving, Knowing & Describing https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40145 What is Emergence & Realization https://forum.philoso...
by Peter Holmes
Wed May 08, 2024 8:50 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

Arguments against moral objectivism 3 The subjectivity of goals That a goal for our actions is morally right or good is a matter of opinion, which is subjective. Our choice of goal – such as well-being, happiness, pleasure, fulfilment, or pleasing my team’s god - is a matter of opinion, which is su...
by Peter Holmes
Wed May 08, 2024 8:47 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

How to be suckered by Kant To say there is no such thing as a thing-in-itself (Kant's noumenon ) is to fantasise that there could be such a thing, but that it happens not to exist - and then to castigate philosophical realists for claiming that it does. This is the fashionable straw windmill tilted...
by Peter Holmes
Wed May 08, 2024 8:33 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

P1 What is a real universe is contingent upon a human-based FSERC. P2 Since it is contingent, a real universe cannot be absolutely independent of the human conditions. C Therefore, if there were no humans, then there would be no [absolute independent] universe. P1 is false. The universe does not de...
by Peter Holmes
Wed May 08, 2024 6:09 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

P1 What is a real universe is contingent upon a human-based FSERC. P2 Since it is contingent, a real universe cannot be absolutely independent of the human conditions. C Therefore, if there were no humans, then there would be no [absolute independent] universe. P1 is false. The universe does not de...
by Peter Holmes
Tue May 07, 2024 10:04 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

Your response is too shallow and narrow. How can reality be experienced, realized and known if there are no humans? Note whatever the answer you provide can only be answered by humans. Therefore, logically and deductively, it follows, whatever the resultant reality it cannot be independent of the h...
by Peter Holmes
Tue May 07, 2024 9:49 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9993
Views: 914298

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

To repeat, in my opinion, much of the analytic movement constituted a wrong-turn to language. Because what do analytic philosophers analyse? Thought, ideas, concepts? And, if so, are those things amenable to analysis in the way that physical reality is amenable to scientific analysis? And if so, wh...
by Peter Holmes
Tue May 07, 2024 9:18 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

In the case of Kantianism, reality is confine to what humans are capable of realizing the reality that spontaneously emerged. This is limited to what is experiential and observable [directly and indirectly] with reinforcement of critical thinking, rationality and wisdom. Here's your claim: If there...
by Peter Holmes
Tue May 07, 2024 8:43 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9993
Views: 914298

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I agree up to this point. It based on Kant's Copernican Revolution, the association with the human conditions is inevitable. Note we have gone through this before. Yes, there is no independent vantage point to observe that human construct reality, i.e. a human is not God and cannot have an absolute...
by Peter Holmes
Tue May 07, 2024 8:07 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

In the case of Kantianism, reality is confine to what humans are capable of realizing the reality that spontaneously emerged. This is limited to what is experiential and observable [directly and indirectly] with reinforcement of critical thinking, rationality and wisdom. Here's your claim: If there...
by Peter Holmes
Mon May 06, 2024 5:31 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9993
Views: 914298

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Claim: If morality is not objective - if there are no moral facts - then there can be no reason for human societies to have moral values and codes about moral rightness and wrongness. This is false. There are sound reasons for why evolving human societies have developed moral values and codes - and ...
by Peter Holmes
Mon May 06, 2024 4:58 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9986
Views: 1104117

Re: What could make morality objective?

Whatever is fact [reality, truth, knowledge] is contingent upon a human-based FSERC of which the scientific FSERC is the most credible and objective. Patently and demonstrably false. And self-contradictory. And stupidly anthropocentric. 'Reality is contingent upon that alien species on a planet on ...
by Peter Holmes
Mon May 06, 2024 12:38 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9993
Views: 914298

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Again, your what is fact is grounded on an illusion. You have been running away and not countering my argument. PH's What is Fact is Illusory https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39577 I have stated your 'what is fact' is outdated, here is the generally accepted meaning of what i...