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by Peter Holmes
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9787
Views: 1028274

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA. Quantum mechanics is an extremely successful attempt to describe reality. So it offers no support to philosophical antirealism.

I notice you dodge my other points again. Wasting your and everyone else's time.
by Peter Holmes
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:36 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9787
Views: 1028274

Re: What could make morality objective?

"...there is no reality that is absolutely independent from humans - which we have to perceive, know and describe in human ways" So, you repeat this false claim, having switched to 'described-reality' just now. And your new formulation reverts to dodging the issue, as follows. 'Premise: R...
by Peter Holmes
Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:10 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9787
Views: 1028274

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA. Prove that really real physical things don't exist independent from human beings - and didn't exist before humans evolved - because all the evidence we have indicates that they do and did. So the burden of proof is yours. Here's your argument: Premise: Reality emerged and is realized within hum...
by Peter Holmes
Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:36 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 744903

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

How do we know they are wrong? Well, for one thing, all of these ethical frameworks listed disagree in pretty profound ways. They begin with different suppositions about what the basic moral axiom might be, and very often, end with different conclusions. What's lacking is a meta-ethical way to arbi...
by Peter Holmes
Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:14 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9787
Views: 1028274

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA. Prove that really real physical things don't exist independent from human beings - and didn't exist before humans evolved - because all the evidence we have indicates that they do and did. So the burden of proof is yours. Here's your argument: Premise: Reality emerged and is realized within huma...
by Peter Holmes
Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:25 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 360

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Peter Holmes, you have no idea what you're talking about and never had. Of course there's a problem. A problem the size of a planet. Or rather, a universal problem. Why do you think VA has been hounding you all this time? Look, when I wrote earlier that such total mind-denial seems like a strange k...
by Peter Holmes
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 360

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Has it never occured to you that in the last 5 or so years in these debates, no one was implying substance dualism or some similar dualisms? That was never what the debate was about? Shall we leave abuse to VA and the dick-for-brains? There's no need. Think about it. If there's no substantially sep...
by Peter Holmes
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 360

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Peter Holmes, you aren't as dense as VA but you come close. Why are you once again back to this "seperate substance" nonsense? Atla, why are you stuck with the fictional problem of direct realism? If it's just brains in objects (bodies) perceiving objects, there's no problem. There are ju...
by Peter Holmes
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:40 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 360

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Denying the mind is a strange form of insanity. Who thinks 'the mind' is a separate substance any more? We're long past that. But perhaps you have some evidence for its existence. Absent that, of course, the so-called problem of the direct perception of objects evaporates. And anyway, indirect real...
by Peter Holmes
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:27 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 360

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Note [ wi th r es erv a t io ns ]: Well who cares about naive realism today? We're long past that. Refuting it today is about as spectacular and groundbreaking as refuting the idea of the 4 elements. Kant refuted the naive realism, but since then we found a far better alternative view to both naive...
by Peter Holmes
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:11 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated
Replies: 26
Views: 360

Re: The Transcendental-Idealism-FSRC is outdated

Note [ wi th r es erv a t io ns ]: Was Kant's Transcendental Idealism a response to Naive Realism? Yes, Kant's Transcendental Idealism can be seen as a response to Naive Realism. Naive Realism posits that objects exist independently of the mind and that we perceive them directly as they are. Kant c...
by Peter Holmes
Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:26 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9787
Views: 1028274

Re: What could make morality objective?

Why are you so selective? I'm pointing out that this account of 'relativism' makes sense, but that it says nothing about reality itself - such as the existence of the universe - but only the way humans think and talk about reality. You have a complete block in your understanding when it comes to th...
by Peter Holmes
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:44 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9787
Views: 1028274

Re: What could make morality objective?

Just a follow-up. If the 'opposite' of relative is absolute , then the claim that knowledge or a description (a truth-claim) must be relative - is absolute. If it isn't absolute, but only relative, then its truth is, as it were, conditional. The fantasy of an absolute or independent description - a ...
by Peter Holmes
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:53 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9787
Views: 1028274

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA. Here's part of a quotation above. 'Relativism, roughly put, is the view that truth and falsity, right and wrong, standards of reasoning, and procedures of justification are products of differing conventions and frameworks of assessment and that their authority is confined to the context giving ...
by Peter Holmes
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9787
Views: 1028274

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA. Here's part of a quotation above. 'Relativism, roughly put, is the view that truth and falsity, right and wrong, standards of reasoning, and procedures of justification are products of differing conventions and frameworks of assessment and that their authority is confined to the context giving r...