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Can a non-moral premise entail a moral conclusion? 1 Humans generate facts through frameworks and systems. (This is false.) 2 Any framework and system can generate facts. (This is false.) 3 A moral framework and system can generate facts. (This begs the question.) 4 A non-moral (eg scientific) fact...

Can a non-moral premise entail a moral conclusion? 1 Humans generate facts through frameworks and systems. (This is false.) 2 Any framework and system can generate facts. (This is false.) 3 A moral framework and system can generate facts. (This begs the question.) 4 A non-moral (eg scientific) fact...

Harbal wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 7:14 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 6:09 am
The fact is your realism view is a primal and primitive view driven by an evolutionary default, thus supported by the majority.

It seems you are wrong on the grounds that too many people agree with you, Peter.

Maybe it's a rare case where intersubjective consensus doesn't work.

Strawman, if you are referring to my argument. Here is my argument is full P1 If there are no moral facts, then we can have no lighthouse by which to steer. P2 If we don't have lighthouse to steer, then we could be drown. P3 Naturally and inherently, no humans [not mentally ill] will want to be dro...

You can take it by default, I am trying very hard to understand what you are trying to convey. I have even raised threads [need to find it] to understand what is your philosophical stance. https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?t=35095&start=60 If you think I have not read or understand,...

P1 If there are no moral facts, then we can have no lighthouse by which to steer. P2 We ought to have a lighthouse by which to steer. C Therefore, there are moral facts. Strawman, if you are referring to my argument. Here is my argument is full P1 If there are no moral facts, then we can have no li...

That's a good point. If you don't mind, I'll nick it and amend this section. That permission is always granted. Note also the bit where he wrote "Therefore moral objectivity is inherent critical for moral progress within humanity", demonstrating the logically invalid ought-to-is direction...

You are very lost in philosophy. abstract noun : a noun denoting an idea, quality, or state rather than a concrete object, e.g. truth , danger, happiness. Are you denying the concept of ' truth '? danger, happiness, wisdom, knowledge? I would claim 'fact' is also an abstract noun. You insist the ab...

A thought about facts. We may not know that a feature of reality (a fact) is or was the case. So we may use ways to calculate the probability that it is or was the case. But that doesn't mean that its being the case is probabilistic. It either is or isn't, or was or wasn't the case, whatever we say...

VA's latest sparkly thing: the deflationary theory of truth and, therefore, facts. '• Imagine a statement like "The cat is on the mat." o Deflationary Facts: This view says there's no separate "fact" that makes this statement true. The statement itself, accurately reflecting the...

A thought about facts. We may not know that a feature of reality (a fact) is or was the case. So we may use ways to calculate the probability that it is or was the case. But that doesn't mean that its being the case is probabilistic. It either is or isn't, or was or wasn't the case, whatever we say ...

VA's latest sparkly thing: the deflationary theory of truth and, therefore, facts. '• Imagine a statement like "The cat is on the mat." o Deflationary Facts: This view says there's no separate "fact" that makes this statement true. The statement itself, accurately reflecting the ...

Reasons for moral objectivism I suggest that moral objectivism – belief that there are moral facts – has two main sources, as follows. Many or most of us care - even deeply - about our moral values, judgements and opinions. They form an important part of our lives and attitudes towards how we and o...

Arguments against moral objectivism 6 Theistic moral objectivism The following is a valid generalised argument for moral objectivity. P1 If agent A says X is morally right/wrong, then (it’s a fact that) X is morally right/wrong. P2 Agent A says X is morally right/wrong. C Therefore, (it’s a fact th...

Arguments against moral objectivism 5 Anti-realist arguments for moral objectivity Anti-realist arguments sometimes have the following form. We humans necessarily perceive, know and describe reality in human ways. Therefore, either we can never know what reality really is, or there is no such thing...