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VA thinks my version of his P1 - 'we humans have to perceive, know and describe reality in human ways' - misrepresents it. And he denies the conclusion 'therefore, humans generate facts'. Instead, it's a 'system' that takes in inputs and generates outputs - conditioned facts, within a framework. So ...

It seems you are wrong on the grounds that too many people agree with you, Peter. :) Maybe it's a rare case where intersubjective consensus doesn't work. :D The once majority realist views, 1- the earth is flat 2- the Sun revolves the Earth were based on an evolutionary default, i.e. primal and pri...

'Fact: a thing that [is known] to exist, or to have occurred, or to be true.' (Concise Oxford) I square-bracket 'is known', for two reasons. First, because expressions such as 'unknown facts', 'we need to establish the facts', 'we don't know all the facts about quantum reality', and so on, are coher...

Can a non-moral premise entail a moral conclusion? 1 Humans generate facts through frameworks and systems. (This is false.) 2 Any framework and system can generate facts. (This is false.) 3 A moral framework and system can generate facts. (This begs the question.) 4 A non-moral (eg scientific) fact...

Can a non-moral premise entail a moral conclusion? 1 Humans generate facts through frameworks and systems. (This is false.) 2 Any framework and system can generate facts. (This is false.) 3 A moral framework and system can generate facts. (This begs the question.) 4 A non-moral (eg scientific) fact...

Harbal wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 7:14 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 6:09 am
The fact is your realism view is a primal and primitive view driven by an evolutionary default, thus supported by the majority.

It seems you are wrong on the grounds that too many people agree with you, Peter.

Maybe it's a rare case where intersubjective consensus doesn't work.

Strawman, if you are referring to my argument. Here is my argument is full P1 If there are no moral facts, then we can have no lighthouse by which to steer. P2 If we don't have lighthouse to steer, then we could be drown. P3 Naturally and inherently, no humans [not mentally ill] will want to be dro...

You can take it by default, I am trying very hard to understand what you are trying to convey. I have even raised threads [need to find it] to understand what is your philosophical stance. https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?t=35095&start=60 If you think I have not read or understand,...

P1 If there are no moral facts, then we can have no lighthouse by which to steer. P2 We ought to have a lighthouse by which to steer. C Therefore, there are moral facts. Strawman, if you are referring to my argument. Here is my argument is full P1 If there are no moral facts, then we can have no li...

That's a good point. If you don't mind, I'll nick it and amend this section. That permission is always granted. Note also the bit where he wrote "Therefore moral objectivity is inherent critical for moral progress within humanity", demonstrating the logically invalid ought-to-is direction...

You are very lost in philosophy. abstract noun : a noun denoting an idea, quality, or state rather than a concrete object, e.g. truth , danger, happiness. Are you denying the concept of ' truth '? danger, happiness, wisdom, knowledge? I would claim 'fact' is also an abstract noun. You insist the ab...

A thought about facts. We may not know that a feature of reality (a fact) is or was the case. So we may use ways to calculate the probability that it is or was the case. But that doesn't mean that its being the case is probabilistic. It either is or isn't, or was or wasn't the case, whatever we say...

VA's latest sparkly thing: the deflationary theory of truth and, therefore, facts. '• Imagine a statement like "The cat is on the mat." o Deflationary Facts: This view says there's no separate "fact" that makes this statement true. The statement itself, accurately reflecting the...

A thought about facts. We may not know that a feature of reality (a fact) is or was the case. So we may use ways to calculate the probability that it is or was the case. But that doesn't mean that its being the case is probabilistic. It either is or isn't, or was or wasn't the case, whatever we say ...

VA's latest sparkly thing: the deflationary theory of truth and, therefore, facts. '• Imagine a statement like "The cat is on the mat." o Deflationary Facts: This view says there's no separate "fact" that makes this statement true. The statement itself, accurately reflecting the ...