Search found 254 matches

by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 312
Views: 2907

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

Regurgitation doesn't require deep thought. People often think they Understand things but on Deeper reflection realize that they did not. Indeed! You think you understand 1+1, but perhaps on deeper reflection you might realise that you don't? You think you understand what a number is, but perhaps o...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 26
Views: 204

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

I do not assume that Consciousness Exists in terms of the ultimate answer to the question. The fact of it's non Existence could be the answer to the question. But of course I Speculate that it might Exist. That is the motivation for the whole study. To have falsifiability there must be a Theory. Th...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Perception
Replies: 3
Views: 41

Re: Perception

The reason you think you are Directly Seeing the external World is that the Conscious Visual Scene that you Experience that is embedded in the front of your face is the only way you have ever Seen the World. You only See the Surrogate Conscious Visual Experience not the Real World. Your Surrogate Co...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 312
Views: 2907

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

Skepdick wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:32 pm
SteveKlinko wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:20 pm
Think more Deeply and repeat after me: ... 1 ... + ... 1 ... = ... 2 ...
Regurgitation doesn't require deep thought.
People often think they Understand things but on Deeper reflection realize that they did not.
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 26
Views: 204

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

You are forgetting that Consciousness is in a new Category of Phenomena that Science cannot deal with yet. Verificationism cannot deal with Consciousness yet. You are putting the Cart before the Horse again. We need a First Clue about Consciousness before we direct our attention to your peripheral ...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 312
Views: 2907

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

Sculptor wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:13 pm
SteveKlinko wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:26 am
Working on the Oneness ...
But are you working on your ONE example??


I won't hold my breath.
I have thought that there is a certain amount of reasonableness to the Oneness proposition. I just don't have a way to Understand Oneness as being true for my Reality of the Universe.
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 312
Views: 2907

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

I submit to you that I do Understand Why 1 + 1 = 2. And I submit to you that you don't. You don't even know what a number is. How are you going to understand what consciousness is when you can't even understand what a number is? You will have to sit down close your eyes and ponder this more Deeply....
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 26
Views: 204

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

Consciousness is the nature of reality, just as consciousness is the nature of dream. I agree, but just as a matter of curiosity, I was thinking about dreams we remember when we wake up v. the dreams we don’t remember at all. Were we conscious of the dreams we don’t remember in the morning? You are...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 312
Views: 2907

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

When I learned that 1 + 1 = 2 in first grade we did not need to Understand understanding.The fact that 1 + 1 = 2 is in itself the Understanding of the understanding of 1 + 1 = 2. Understanding Consciousness will be the same way. When we Understand Consciousness we will Understand what understanding...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 26
Views: 204

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

I think you've said more than needs to be said. It simply begs the question: What is physics? For I can sure say this: The Universe is. On the other hand, that sure begs the question: Why do you need to know or say anything about The Universe? Because that is what the Inquiring Human Mind does. Thi...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 26
Views: 204

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

You are taking Gap as a Spatial Gap but it is an Explanatory Gap. Also, I think I can be the thing, Redness, but still not know what Redness is. We clearly do not know what we are. So we must ask questions until we discover what we are. That which can explain it's own existence has to come from con...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 26
Views: 204

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

As an analogy we could say that the Universe is Physics and that is all you need to know or say . Its essentially a true statement but there is a huge Explanatory Gap in making a statement like that . If you say the Universe is Consciousness and that is all you need to know or say then even if it i...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 312
Views: 2907

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

I will have to understand Consciousness using Consciousness. That is a given, and doesn't mean that it cannot be done. Maybe it can be done. Maybe it can't be done. Before you understand consciousness using consciousness. Why don't you try to understand understanding using consciousness? Surely tha...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 312
Views: 2907

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

I don't know How Consciousness works so that is Why I pursue it. It is what I do. If the Oneness thing is the answer then I don't understand that yet. I understand that Steve ..but the truth is only you will figure this out for yourself. There is nothing another person can say to you that will alte...
by SteveKlinko
Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 312
Views: 2907

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

Scientists can describe the Neural Activity that occurs in the Brain when we See. But they seem to be completely puzzled by the Conscious Visual experience that we have that is correlated with the Neural Activity. Incredibly, some even come to the conclusion that the Conscious experience is not eve...