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- Mon May 03, 2021 12:47 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: The Human Brain Is Incapable Of Understanding Anything
- Replies: 24
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Re: The Human Brain Is Incapable Of Understanding Anything
In my view the question is moot because the "conscious mind" is identical to a subset of processes (not just neural activity) in brains. It could also be identical to other processes in other sorts of materials, but at present I'd say we have no good reason to believe this to be the case....
- Mon May 03, 2021 12:37 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
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Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Camera analogy is a little Incoherent to me. Who is saying that the Human Eye is what we are Seeing when we See something. Let's straighten this out first. The eye would be analogous to the lens. I didn't just say the lens above. I said the camera . When you take a photograph, you're not taking a p...
- Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:22 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: The Human Brain Is Incapable Of Understanding Anything
- Replies: 24
- Views: 5414
The Human Brain Is Incapable Of Understanding Anything
In this topic I will attempt to define Understanding with respect to the Inter Mind Model (IMM). With the Perspective of the IMM, we can ask the question: Is Understanding a process in the Conscious Mind (CM) or is it simply Neural Activity of the right kind in the Physical Mind (PM)? The concept of...
- Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
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Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Everything you Know and ever can Know is obtained through your Conscious Experiences/Perceptions. Obviously. It's just that what you know isn't only something mental. Confusion between those two ideas shouldn't be that difficult to sort out. Think of an analogy with a camera, say. Everything you ph...
- Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:26 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
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Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Oy vey. As I already said, the way that a cube REALLY IS from particular spatiotemporal reference points is that only some sides are visible. "There is no perspective in how things really are" couldn't be more wrong. There are no spatiotemporal reference point-free spatiotemporal referenc...
- Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:17 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
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Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
I believe you said that you think you See Objects as they really are, and that you are not Seeing a Representation of Objects in your Mind. If you are going to say you See Objects as they are then you will necessarily be able to See all six sides of a Box and inside the Box, Oy vey. As I already sa...
- Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:42 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
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Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
TS, it seems as if SK is saying that, in reality, a given cube is the same size and shape no matter where it is, but that when it is farther away from you, it looks smaller. At least that is one of the reasons (if I’ve got it right) that SK is saying that we don’t see reality. Yes, but it goes Deep...
- Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:40 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
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Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
You say you are Observing the Cube as it is in reality. Yes. The way that cubes are in reality is that from different spatiotemporal reference points, only certain portions of them are visible. Again, THIS IS WHAT A CUBE (and the rest of the world) IS LIKE IN REALITY. We're necessarily always talki...
- Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:04 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
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Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Since you believe your Senses do Directly Access the External World then, How does that work? If you were observing a Cube in the External world you should be able to Observe all six sides at the same time if you were truly Observing the Cube as a Cube in the External World. But I'll bet that you c...
- Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:14 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
- Views: 43222
Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Holy crap, man, I wasn't saying anything about simulations. If you can't observe the external world there's zero way for you to know that the external world has jackshit to do with consistency or that it even exists at all. So exactly How do you Directly Observe the External World? Are you going to...
- Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:50 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
- Views: 43222
Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Holy crap, man, I wasn't saying anything about simulations. If you can't observe the external world there's zero way for you to know that the external world has jackshit to do with consistency or that it even exists at all. So exactly How do you Directly Observe the External World? Are you going to...
- Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:56 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
- Views: 43222
Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
When I Verify my Representations by a lifetime of using them I have found that they are a pretty good Representation of what the External World is like. Sigh. Based on your view, you have zero knowledge if there even is an external world. Why you can't see this, who knows. It's like trying to expla...
- Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:44 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
- Views: 43222
Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
I'm trying hard to understand how a discussion about hard consciousness is related to the topic. What ever way we might perceive - whether described as mental representations of the "real " world does not move this question forward. We can only access our experience to address this questi...
- Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:28 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
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Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
I'm just curious. Are you a Naïve Realist, aka Direct Realist? If so, what is your understanding of How we See? Yes, I'm a naive/direct realist. Ceteris paribus, we sense things as they are. We don't only sense mental phenomena. We sense the external world. Our senses are the means by which we do t...
- Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:25 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
- Replies: 352
- Views: 43222
Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
You believe that what you're really verifying is mental "representations" you have, though, right? Yes, the only things you have to work with are Mental Representations. Everything you have ever known and Experienced are all Representations or Surrogates for whatever is happening in the E...