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- Sat May 18, 2024 1:38 am
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
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Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
What "personal experience" convinces you that you've encountered what morality is, and how have you established that it was "subjective"? And what do you do with the fact that a "subjective" view of morality makes the whole idea of morality itself ridiculous, because i...
- Thu May 16, 2024 11:40 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
Crime and Punishment refutes that quip. It's about the effects of bucking inherent morality. What kind of morality did the ancient humans need? There's no ancient society that doesn't have a conception of morality. Just like there are no ancient Atheist societies, and no ancient societies where wom...
- Thu May 16, 2024 11:36 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
I'd actually like to see somebody do that. People talk about it, but they never demonstrate it. Take any precept you like. Let's say...a permission to do something we'd all concede is "good," such as, say: Saving a child's life. Giving to charity. Feeding the hungry. Telling the truth. Or...
- Tue May 14, 2024 4:01 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Mon May 13, 2024 10:45 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
If God does not exist objective morality may still have a basis other than God. I'd actually like to see somebody do that. People talk about it, but they never demonstrate it. Take any precept you like. Let's say...a permission to do something we'd all concede is "good," such as, say: Sav...
- Mon May 13, 2024 10:45 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
If God does not exist objective morality may still have a basis other than God. I'd actually like to see somebody do that. People talk about it, but they never demonstrate it. Take any precept you like. Let's say...a permission to do something we'd all concede is "good," such as, say: Sav...
- Mon May 13, 2024 4:51 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
It looks like the discussion now hinges on whether God exists. If there is no God, there’s no morality. Since there’s no such thing as objective morality and furthermore subjective morality is subjective and worthless, God is either worthless or doesn’t exist. IC's claims about morality are inextri...
- Mon May 13, 2024 2:51 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
It looks like the discussion now hinges on whether God exists. If there is no God, there’s no morality. Since there’s no such thing as objective morality and furthermore subjective morality is subjective and worthless, God is either worthless or doesn’t exist. IC's claims about morality are inextri...
- Mon May 13, 2024 12:07 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
It looks like the discussion now hinges on whether God exists. If there is no God, there’s no morality. Since there’s no such thing as objective morality and furthermore subjective morality is subjective and worthless, God is either worthless or doesn’t exist.
- Mon May 13, 2024 11:56 am
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: Americanism
- Replies: 80
- Views: 1218
Re: Americanism
Then thank you for your bullshyte.Lorikeet wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:38 amPhilosophy is about the pursuit of truth.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:04 am This thread of yours is epic and truly remarkable for being found on a philosophy discussion forum.
Thank you!
This forum is immersed in bullshyte.
- Mon May 13, 2024 12:04 am
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: Americanism
- Replies: 80
- Views: 1218
Re: Americanism
This thread of yours is epic and truly remarkable for being found on a philosophy discussion forum.
Thank you!
Thank you!
- Thu May 09, 2024 5:05 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
Of course you are. It's just that nobody else has to. Even you don't have to, as soon as you have a different twinge, in fact. So we're not really bound by any...what's the word...oh, yeah..."morality." :wink: Nobody is bound by your twinges, either, I'm very pleased to say? Nobody is bou...
- Thu May 09, 2024 5:00 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
I hate to point this out, but if morality is subjective, so is your belief in rights. Rights are a moral concept, not one you can glean from objective observation. And I hate to point this out to you, but I am free to believe in, and value, whatever I like. Of course you are. It's just that nobody ...
- Thu May 09, 2024 4:13 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
Bad judgment could lead to an exchange of nuclear assets. You forgot. A Subjectivist has no reason to expect the word "bad" to convey anything. Anything that is the "judgment" made by another "subjective observer" has to be every bit as "good" or "bad&qu...
- Thu May 09, 2024 4:03 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 337
- Views: 3902
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that is made by a Subjectivist means something important...that's quite a different question. All it really means is "Today, I feel icky about Biden/Trump.&...