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If God does not exist objective morality may still have a basis other than God. I'd actually like to see somebody do that. People talk about it, but they never demonstrate it. Take any precept you like. Let's say...a permission to do something we'd all concede is "good," such as, say: Sav...

If God does not exist objective morality may still have a basis other than God. I'd actually like to see somebody do that. People talk about it, but they never demonstrate it. Take any precept you like. Let's say...a permission to do something we'd all concede is "good," such as, say: Sav...

It looks like the discussion now hinges on whether God exists. If there is no God, there’s no morality. Since there’s no such thing as objective morality and furthermore subjective morality is subjective and worthless, God is either worthless or doesn’t exist. IC's claims about morality are inextri...

It looks like the discussion now hinges on whether God exists. If there is no God, there’s no morality. Since there’s no such thing as objective morality and furthermore subjective morality is subjective and worthless, God is either worthless or doesn’t exist. IC's claims about morality are inextri...

It looks like the discussion now hinges on whether God exists. If there is no God, there’s no morality. Since there’s no such thing as objective morality and furthermore subjective morality is subjective and worthless, God is either worthless or doesn’t exist.

Lorikeet wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:38 am

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:04 am This thread of yours is epic and truly remarkable for being found on a philosophy discussion forum.

Thank you!

Philosophy is about the pursuit of truth.
This forum is immersed in bullshyte.

Then thank you for your bullshyte.

This thread of yours is epic and truly remarkable for being found on a philosophy discussion forum.

Thank you!

Of course you are. It's just that nobody else has to. Even you don't have to, as soon as you have a different twinge, in fact. So we're not really bound by any...what's the word...oh, yeah..."morality." :wink: Nobody is bound by your twinges, either, I'm very pleased to say? Nobody is bou...

I hate to point this out, but if morality is subjective, so is your belief in rights. Rights are a moral concept, not one you can glean from objective observation. And I hate to point this out to you, but I am free to believe in, and value, whatever I like. Of course you are. It's just that nobody ...

Bad judgment could lead to an exchange of nuclear assets. You forgot. A Subjectivist has no reason to expect the word "bad" to convey anything. Anything that is the "judgment" made by another "subjective observer" has to be every bit as "good" or "bad&qu...

Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that is made by a Subjectivist means something important...that's quite a different question. All it really means is "Today, I feel icky about Biden/Trump.&...

Why do I express my opinion to those who are under no obligation to agree with me and follow my morality? There are two reasons: some may change their mind and decide that my opinion applies to them as well, and I am a narcissist. While no one is under any obligation to adopt my personal preference...

Right. That's the Subjectivist problem. Nothing they affirm in the moral realm has any logical obligation for anybody else. He still gets to vote, though. Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that i...

While there really is no such thing as objective morality, those in power may impose their subjective morality, as if it were objective morality. This is the case collectively, when Congress agrees upon its laws.

If my neighbors behavior is bad, in my opinion, then it is right for me to abhor their behavior.