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by DPMartin
Mon May 10, 2021 7:29 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: make truth?
Replies: 65
Views: 782

Re: make truth?

it seems you mince what men perceive as truth or true and what is actually the truth as one. and they are not. that's not to say truth can't be known, but the truth has to be revealed before it is known. How do you know there is actual truth ? Simply making such a claim, as you do, does not magical...
by DPMartin
Mon May 10, 2021 7:22 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

the short of it you can't escape what's in your heart, desire if you will and desire can be any degree or intensity of want. That's what you think. Others disagree. so how does that make it not true, because others disagree? so, disagreeing doesn't prove or make a thing not so you still twist it to...
by DPMartin
Mon May 10, 2021 4:28 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: make truth?
Replies: 65
Views: 782

Re: make truth?

truth was there before man, and will be after man, so there's no need for man to make it, change it for it to be the truth. How do you know this? man does want to be the judge of good and evil in the earth, that's what makes him a god in his own eyes. Is that what you're doing? Being the judge of t...
by DPMartin
Mon May 10, 2021 4:13 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: make truth?
Replies: 65
Views: 782

Re: make truth?

if someone lies and more people believe the lie more then don't believe the lie, does that make it the truth? "Making truth" is what humans do... with all of their labels and definitions and beliefs. If no humans were on the Earth, no other form of life would be concerned about the idea of "truth"....
by DPMartin
Mon May 10, 2021 4:09 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: make truth?
Replies: 65
Views: 782

Re: make truth?

if someone lies and more people believe the lie more then don't believe the lie, does that make it the truth? Nobody knows whether or not there be absolute truth. Absolute truth transcends knowledge. No matter how many people believe some idea or experience being eaten by tigers we cannot absolutel...
by DPMartin
Mon May 10, 2021 4:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

It's not a desire... it's appreciation. It doesn't need to be quested after. Is your desire so strong to "be right" that you distort and make up shit in whatever way is possible instead of acknowledging your limited and faulty thinking and claims? You made a claim about all people, always. That's s...
by DPMartin
Sat May 08, 2021 3:20 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

Your first post in the thread seemed to be saying that there's a problem with a relationship to truth because it's biased by desires. So I was noting that in the vast majority of scenarios, that's not the case. And insofar as our desires go, they're often rather thwarted by truth, which often runs ...
by DPMartin
Sat May 08, 2021 3:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

all man thinks about is fulfillment of what he desires in his heart Wrong. I just as often, if not moreso, think about the collective flow of humans and life, and the benefits and perfection of that. There is greater good to be seen/recognized through connection. gee could that be your desire? man ...
by DPMartin
Sat May 08, 2021 3:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

No. You are contrdicting yourself. If you have desire than that is what you are. If a person is defined by his desire as you suggest then he can only be truthful to himself to persue those desires. nope this statement show you're incorrect: "If a person is defined by his desire as you suggest then ...
by DPMartin
Fri May 07, 2021 4:37 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

This is self contradictory. If all "man" (sic) is interested in is his desires then he is being truthful to those desires. Desire is his truth. And if he desires knoweldge, or pleasure then seeking those is the truth. desire isn't ones truth, its only true that one has desire for whatever. No. You ...
by DPMartin
Fri May 07, 2021 4:24 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

Most of the time when I'm assessing whether a proposition is true, my response has nothing at all to do with desire. For example, if I'm wondering if it's past noon, a desire for it to be prior to or past noon has nothing to do with discovering the truth about what time it is. Or if I think, "I hav...
by DPMartin
Thu May 06, 2021 11:42 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

Most of the time when I'm assessing whether a proposition is true, my response has nothing at all to do with desire. For example, if I'm wondering if it's past noon, a desire for it to be prior to or past noon has nothing to do with discovering the truth about what time it is. Or if I think, "I hav...
by DPMartin
Thu May 06, 2021 11:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

all man thinks about is fulfillment of what he desires in his heart. man can't escape his desire, and seeks opportunity for such fulfillments. therefore man is separate from the truth, because he is a liar for his desires. one would have to disregard his desires of his nature for the truth. hence t...
by DPMartin
Thu May 06, 2021 5:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

Re: man is separate from truth

all man thinks about is fulfillment of what he desires in his heart. man can't escape his desire, and seeks opportunity for such fulfillments. therefore man is separate from the truth, because he is a liar for his desires. one would have to disregard his desires of his nature for the truth. hence t...
by DPMartin
Thu May 06, 2021 4:39 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: man is separate from truth
Replies: 30
Views: 266

man is separate from truth

all man thinks about is fulfillment of what he desires in his heart. man can't escape his desire, and seeks opportunity for such fulfillments. therefore man is separate from the truth, because he is a liar for his desires. one would have to disregard his desires of his nature for the truth. hence th...