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by A Human
Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:35 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

Right, it does not follow from your reporting of your understandings you have now. This is totally agreed to. Good. Everything after the word follow is superfluous and a bit redundant. Yes, very exactly, that was the point I was making here. This is very important, Creativesoul, when the point bein...
by A Human
Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:04 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

It's unacceptable, given the context, to focus upon the form of my responses to you. That is to conflate my reports with what I'm reporting upon. My reports require metacognition. What I'm reporting upon does not. Our ability to become aware of what I'm reporting upon requires metacognition. What I...
by A Human
Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:47 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: How there could be more than one Mind?
Replies: 34
Views: 4391

Re: How there could be more than one Mind?

Lets define Mind and Mental state first. Mind is the essence of every beings with the abilities which allow experiences, decides and acts. Mental state is what Mind can experience and act upon. We know by fact that the experience decision and act are local phenomena. Mind however does not have any ...
by A Human
Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:38 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Time does not exist.
Replies: 547
Views: 54292

Re: Time does not exist.

We experience forms and motions. Time is a concept that we use to have an idea about two motions, one is our standard clock and another is subject of our experience. Time isn't about your idea....wrong Wrong, 'time' is the dimension just above and beyond what can be experienced directly by any part...
by A Human
Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:35 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

It's unacceptable, given the context, to focus upon the form of my responses to you. That is to conflate my reports with what I'm reporting upon. My reports require metacognition. What I'm reporting upon does not. Our ability to become aware of what I'm reporting upon requires metacognition. What I...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:51 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Mind cannot be created
Replies: 79
Views: 9658

Re: Mind cannot be created

Storms are capable of splitting and merging, and identity questions might arise: Was it the same storm that hit both our towns? The answer might not always be clear. Named storms tend to be large enough to effectively retain identity throughout their namings. The storm headed for japan right now is...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:39 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Mind cannot be created
Replies: 79
Views: 9658

Re: Mind cannot be created

Ah, now I get it. Rather than just conversing about the topic, you are providing a practical demonstration of the absence of mind in yourself. When a person is cornered in thought and so switches to straight out personal attack of another forum member, I tend to not participate. I am here for an ex...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:14 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

Perhaps what follows is inhibiting my understanding of how it could be the case that we've reached agreement... For a belief to form, there needs to be an x and y that are THEN considered and a meaning of that relation in relation to the observer to be made afterwords. It's really that simple. You ...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:00 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: ~ Consciousness; the brain’s non-conceptual theory about itself ~
Replies: 11
Views: 2424

Re: ~ Consciousness; the brain’s non-conceptual theory about itself ~

.In the paper where he puts forward his thesis, Cleeremans argues that in order to be aware, it’s necessary not simply to know information, but to know that one knows information. In other words, unlike a thermostat that simply records temperature, conscious humans both know and care that they know...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:31 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

Learning that touching fire hurts when touched doesn't require thought/belief in the form of 'X caused Y which means Z'. What I've just argued, and you've(oddly enough) since agreed with is an argument in support of that. Of course! That's what I've been doing my best to explain to you, creativesoul.
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:31 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

Hey! Hold on with the platter of red herring... :roll: Are you saying that a creature who cannot conceive of time cannot learn that fire hurts when touched? As a matter of fact, the pain from touching fire follows the touching. We know that. A creature need not be able to conceive of time in order ...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:19 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

Here we go again: When two things happen close together, that is an association that most creatures can puzzle out. No belief is required, it's an association, even Aristotle was very familiar with this. For a belief to form, there needs to be an x and y that are THEN considered and a meaning of tha...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:12 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

Perhaps a simple report upon everyday fact is better... One can learn that fire hurts when touched without being able to communicate what's being learnt. One can learn that fire hurts when touched without ever being able to conceive of time " then creativesoul says in total contradiction to his own...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:55 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

It is worth a bit of time to give some attention to the notion of intention . If intention is indicative and/or requires self-awareness, and/or thinking about one's own thoughts, then it requires metacognition. Cognition does not require metacognition. It only follows from this that cognition doesn...
by A Human
Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:47 am
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: What is belief?
Replies: 110
Views: 13387

Re: What is belief?

Alright Human ... After re-reading our exchanges, it is clear to me that there are a couple of different things going on here. Stepping back and taking an account of the discussion and it's direction is on order. I have but one point to argue at the moment. Whereas it seems that you're arguing a su...