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by Belinda
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:28 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 2007
Views: 68151

Re: What could make morality objective?

That sort of God, Skepdick, is nowhere in sight. However the sort of God people make moment by moment as they live may be imagined as an aesthetic or moral aim.
by Belinda
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 2007
Views: 68151

Re: What could make morality objective?

The reason we cannot make morality objective is we cannot agree about its essence. The essence of morality is exclusively God, or nature, or God-or-Nature. Being as we are in a state of trial and error, essences do not exist except as we aspire to them with a probability of success. When an aspirati...
by Belinda
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:55 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

I have claimed and now claim God granted Free Will to men. My claim is of course within the superior claim that the God myth is true. I don't claim that. Then your claim is, nobody granted nothing to no one. That's all. Not a very spectacular claim, to be sure. it's not customary to write a forewor...
by Belinda
Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

If the Supreme Being can make creatures, what reasoning would lead us to be convinced that for some reason He couldn't grant them free will? He'd be less than "supreme" if He could not. I have claimed and now claim God granted Free Will to men. My claim is of course within the superior claim that t...
by Belinda
Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:32 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

"Micromanage the universe".. Jesus said that He knows when the sparrow falls, and that His kingdom is intimate. God created oceans, land masses, land animals , birds and goodness knows what else. Well, more perspective theologians differentiate between foreknowledge and predestination . The former ...
by Belinda
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

"Being born as a natural human being would not in itself prevent your being an originator of events." Then stop harpin' on it. # "Being begotten of parents is only one cause of who and what your are and what you do. Please think of the many happenings of pour life and how they were all caused by an...
by Belinda
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Gaffo, at least I can say on behalf of Immanuel and Henry Q that they understand how Free Will impacts on man's moral responsibility. Which I expect you agree matters a lot perhaps especially since moral responsibility morphs into political responsibility.
by Belinda
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Immanuel Can wrote quoting me Immanuel Can, humans are no closer to their Creator than plants, viruses, or whales. Biblically, you're plain wrong about that...you may not care, but you're also quite wrong about what Theists and Deists are rationally obligated to think about it. No part of their beli...
by Belinda
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Immanuel Can, humans are no closer to their Creator than plants, viruses, or whales. Regarding interventions in history by God the Creator; either He is the sort of being whose nature it absolutely is to intervene in history or He is the sort of being whose nature is absolutely NOT to intervene in h...
by Belinda
Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Not at all. If, as Genesis claims, mankind was "made in the image of God," in terms of mankind's volitional nature, then part of that "ordered course" would be that free will would be practiced. Then free will is within, not outside of, the "ordered course" and the Word of God. Immanuel, I now unde...
by Belinda
Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Immanuel Can wrote: Well, we don't call it "a special gift." What we say is that the Creator constituted mankind with a will. And we do say that the Supreme Being, if He chooses to do so, can intervene to do something in the material world -- a miracle, if you will. However, we also say that such ev...
by Belinda
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Henry Quirk wrote: Again: I don't understand how my having an origin, a source, a cause (the union of my ma and pa) prohibits me from being a causal agent (a free will). Being born as a natural human being would not in itself prevent your being an originator of events. Being begotten of parents is o...
by Belinda
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:34 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: Belinda

I don't understand how my having an origin, a source, a cause (the union of my ma and pa) prohibits me from being a *causal agent (a free will ). * The decision(s) I make (are) no mere vector sum of internal and external forces acting upon me during the process of deliberation (if, indeed, I delibe...
by Belinda
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Immanuel Can replied to me: Free Will is itself uncaused and is therefore random . Sorry: that's just a false dichotomy. The opposite of Deterministic is not "random." Randomness implies the absolute absence of any conditions contributing to the outcome; and no sensible person who believes in free w...
by Belinda
Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 9852

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Now, when you get to talking about things like "plexuses of possibilities," you even combine both the idea of Determinism (plexus) with the idea of free will (possibilities: because in Determinism, there are no possibilities but what is caused to happen by the prior cause -- no other possibility ev...