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by bahman
Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

Consciousness to me is the ability of the mind. My cat is conscious, but she doesn't have a mind. The mind is the unique kind of consciousness that only human beings have. The mind is the intellectual and rational aspects of human consciousness. So we are using different terms for different things....
by bahman
Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:23 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

The interaction between a gas and a sensor is purely electromagnetic. The human ability to taste and smell is not electromagnetic. It is purely chemical in nature. Smell is how human consciousness detects some different chemicals. I think that that is the mind which experiences chemical. Consciousn...
by bahman
Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

Again. Salt is made of electrons, protons, and neutrons which not of them have smell or taste... Then how do you even begin to explain the phenomena of sight, smell, taste, touch, and hearing except as emergent phenomena? Reductionism and holism are two sides of the same coin... As I mentioned befo...
by bahman
Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:58 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

Lets see what other common-sense phenomena I can get you to reject... There is no such thing as smell. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Fucking called it! In addition to "smell", can I just go ahead and assume that you also reject the notions of sight, taste, hearing and touch? I have a song for you. ...
by bahman
Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:09 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

As you see for electronic nose you need arrays of sensor plus a pattern recognition system: "The expression "electronic sensing" refers to the capability of reproducing human senses using sensor arrays and pattern recognition systems." What the device does at the end is to separate different chemic...
by bahman
Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: proposition (1)
Replies: 40
Views: 332

Re: proposition (1)

I experience thoughts. Agree (but, if you actually look you will find that: the one that thinks he/she experiences thought is also just a thought - in truth, the experiencer can not be found) My mind. So thought experiences thought? Or is what you call mind more than just a collection of thoughts? ...
by bahman
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

Where and when does 'emergence' supposedly say this? This is the definition of strong emergence which is agreed among philosophers and scientists. There is the first mistake, from my perspective. The ones labelled "philosopher" and/or "scientists" make up words and definitions or change definitions...
by bahman
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:44 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: proposition (1)
Replies: 40
Views: 332

Re: proposition (1)

AlexW wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:27 pm
bahman wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:27 pm
No, the mind is fundamental. Consciousness is a property of mind.
Can you observe thought or are you always lost in it?
I experience thoughts.
AlexW wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:27 pm
If you can observe thought, then what is it that observes?
My mind.
by bahman
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: proposition (1)
Replies: 40
Views: 332

Re: proposition (1)

I don't think consciousness has a goal or a plan - as I see it, it's not doing anything, but it simply is. Realisation is for the mind only - consciousness is already fully "realised" without having to know/think that it is. AlexW, what's the difference between mind and consciousness? They constant...
by bahman
Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:22 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Free Will
Replies: 50
Views: 808

Re: Free Will

Dontaskme wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:21 am
Free will means making the right choice in order to feel love and goodness, a sense of justice, security, peace and harmony, mainly, the natural equilibrium of being no thing and everything.

Any objection?

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Yes. Your decision is not free if it is for a reason, such as love and goodness.
by bahman
Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: proposition (1)
Replies: 40
Views: 332

Re: proposition (1)

All our deeds, emotions, thoughts, creeds – and whatever else we are trying to relate ourselves with – are expression of Consciousness which exercises its possibilities in order to realise itself. I don't think consciousness has a goal or a plan - as I see it, it's not doing anything, but it simply...
by bahman
Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:17 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

Where and when does 'emergence' supposedly say this? This is the definition of strong emergence which is agreed among philosophers and scientists. We have two kinds of emergence, weak and strong. To elaborate consider a system that has parts and each part has a set of properties. Weak emergence, th...
by bahman
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

You know that there are receptors on our tongs. Each chemical affects a specific receptor. A signal is then sent to the brain depending on which receptor is affected.Different areas of the brain become active depending on which receptor is affected. You aren't saying anything interesting. That's ho...
by bahman
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

Because by definition emergence is a phenomenon in a system that has parts. An elementary particle does not have parts. But you just used mass to explain gravity! And according to you - we don't know what mass is. Now you are claiming that mass is an elementary particle? Make up your mind. Do you o...
by bahman
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 77
Views: 654

Re: There is no emergence

i have no idea about any other argument regarding "emergence", i just look at words, and their specific definitions, to gain my views. Consciousness comes from the Truly OPEN Mind. Where does the Mind "come from"? is not the correct way to pose the question as the Mind exists HERE-NOW, always. Cons...