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by bahman
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:40 pm
bahman wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:39 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:34 pm


So is it the electron which forms the cycle or the cycle which forms the electron?
It is electrons which form the cycles. Electrons interact with each other and produce a feedback loop.
And this must go on ad-infinitum?
Not really. The number of electrons in our brains are finite.
by bahman
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:39 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:34 pm
bahman wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:32 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:28 pm


Then the model itself is a result of electrons (etc.) cycling through themselves?
It seems so.
So is it the electron which forms the cycle or the cycle which forms the electron?
It is electrons which form the cycles. Electrons interact with each other and produce a feedback loop.
by bahman
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:32 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

Is the standard model composed of electrons considering the standard model is an idea, but ideas are formed from electrons? Standard model is a formalism which takes, electron, quark and other particles into account. Ideas seems to me that are emergent phenomena. They are manifestation of how neuro...
by bahman
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

And what happens if and when further elements are found within the context of time? Time is an element of all proofs and a further expansion is inevitable. It could be that electron also does have structure. What I said was based on standard model which is not anomaly free though. Is the standard m...
by bahman
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

So "electron motion or nuclei or both" are the three options which "possibly" are the only options which give rise to thought...why these three options only? These seems to be the only option which materialists provide. What led to them? Electron, quark, etc. seems to be elementary. And what happen...
by bahman
Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

How thought which is the result of neurons activities could have casual power? This statement is a thought. It is neuron activity, not a result of it, it is it. The result is in the knowing of the thought as this causeless cause, the only power there is. So you mean that a cue ball also has some so...
by bahman
Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

As far as I understanding, and you can correct me if I read something falsely, most neurons exist through a looping form and function. Is the loop, or circle formed from the neutrons or do the neutrons form the loop? I don't know what give rise to thought, electron motion or nuclei or both. So "ele...
by bahman
Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:43 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

How thought which is the result of neurons activities could have casual power? Why should thought emerge from neuron activity when neuron itself has causal power? 'self'-referential feeback loops. Think about this this way(although it can be a stretched analogy), we know from computational neural n...
by bahman
Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Re: Are we self-deriving ideas?

How thought which is the result of neurons activities could have casual power? Why should thought emerge from neuron activity when neuron itself has causal power? As far as I understanding, and you can correct me if I read something falsely, most neurons exist through a looping form and function. I...
by bahman
Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:28 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Do we overassume?
Replies: 3
Views: 25

Re: Do we overassume?

Experience is real.
by bahman
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:43 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Are we self-deriving ideas?
Replies: 19
Views: 131

Are we self-deriving ideas?

How thought which is the result of neurons activities could have casual power? Why should thought emerge from neuron activity when neuron itself has causal power?
by bahman
Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:02 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Hello World!
Replies: 6
Views: 105

Re: Hello World!

Came here hoping that be able to have a good thread. Been reading up on the 'self awareness; thing and I'm like, why talk to others about how they see you? What if you are all surrounded by trolls and snipes that would make you feel bad? Like the time I asked my sisters "How do I look? and they ans...
by bahman
Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:40 pm
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: Irreducibility
Replies: 5
Views: 77

Re: Irreducibility

vmurthy77 wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:39 pm
Can someone help me understand the concept of irreducibility in philosophy?
Irreducible is a concept which applies to things which cannot be reduced to anything else.
by bahman
Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:24 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Favorite Quote?
Replies: 27
Views: 316

Re: Favorite Quote?

We are minds covered by stuff.
by bahman
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: Aesthetics
Topic: Music
Replies: 2956
Views: 310246

Re: Music