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by Terrapin Station
Wed May 12, 2021 5:42 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: P = -P
Replies: 64
Views: 2019

Re: P = -P

Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:38 am
what ever it was you where referencing
Yeah, who knows what it might have been. Yet you're not conceding an inability follow the conversation.
by Terrapin Station
Wed May 12, 2021 5:39 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror
Replies: 80
Views: 600

Re: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror

Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:59 am
Naive realism will provide for perceptual errors and illusions only where it is very obvious.
It's rather just that there need to be evidential grounds for errors/illusions.
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 10:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 289
Views: 3930

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

Noumena is the outside reality. Phenomana is what you make of your perceptions. You twisted that to " we can't observe externals". Senses have evolved - it is obvious that what they give us to an impression, of reality. It's unlikely that eveolution has managed to gieve some sort of magical perfect...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 9:22 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: P = -P
Replies: 64
Views: 2019

Re: P = -P

False you said: "lol--this solely hinges on what people have in mind when they say something." So I asked you: "So identity is subject to interpretation then?" And "this" was a pronoun for ? If I understand this refers to: "False, you are failing to look deeper into the language. Something "and" so...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 9:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 289
Views: 3930

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

This is both ridicuous and tedious. If you can't be bothered to read what I wrote, then I'm not going to take the trouble to write it. You wrote "Phenoma are not outside" and then you started talking about eyes. Those two things seem incompatible to me, so I need to clarify it before moving on to t...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 9:08 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror
Replies: 80
Views: 600

Re: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror

Do you agree that there could be something wrong with, say, your eye(s) or your ear(s) that would lead to inaccurate information about what something is like at the spatiotemporal "point" where your eye or ear is, though?--I mean, where that's not an interpretational issue, per se, but a physical i...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 6:24 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror
Replies: 80
Views: 600

Re: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror

Do you agree that there could be something wrong with, say, your eye(s) or your ear(s) that would lead to inaccurate information about what something is like at the spatiotemporal "point" where your eye or ear is, though?--I mean, where that's not an interpretational issue, per se, but a physical i...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 6:17 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror
Replies: 80
Views: 600

Re: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror

Sure, purple is purple, it's real and it's exactly as perceived, so far so good. But purple has no known wavelength, science hasn't found purple light yet. As I say: purple is red and blue, blended. I'm not gettin' the whole science hasn't found it yet thing. If you mean purple isn't a primary, you...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 6:14 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror
Replies: 80
Views: 600

Re: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror

Yeah, I'm not sure where the misconception/straw man about direct realism is coming from. Who are folks reading to say that direct realism posits that perception is infallible? Also, who are they reading to say that realism, direct or not, posits that one perceives "all facts about x" or whatever th...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 6:08 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror
Replies: 80
Views: 600

Re: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror

Do you agree that there could be something wrong with, say, your eye(s) or your ear(s) that would lead to inaccurate information about what something is like at the spatiotemporal "point" where your eye or ear is, though?--I mean, where that's not an interpretational issue, per se, but a physical i...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 5:39 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: An argument against materialism
Replies: 85
Views: 689

Re: An argument against materialism

?? Reification is a type of projection. It's positing something that only exists as a mental phenomenon--like meaning, or concepts, or desires--as something that exists in the external/objective world. As I frequently point out, in my view any given word is pretty much meaningless without some cont...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 4:56 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: An argument against materialism
Replies: 85
Views: 689

Re: An argument against materialism

]Well, the idea of 'pure energy' is just science fiction hokum. Energy is fundamentally movement, so ya can't have movement without something moving. Reification in science is ontology in philosophy; ?? Reification is a type of projection. It's positing something that only exists as a mental phenom...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 4:54 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror
Replies: 80
Views: 600

Re: Realists as Animals Cannot Recognize Themselves in a Mirror

It is common for people to make mistakes in perceptions, It would be impossible to know this if we can't perceive things correctly, in order to know just what mistakes people are making, and of course it would be impossible to know this if we can't know that there are other people, people who are p...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 4:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 289
Views: 3930

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

Phenomena are not outside. The world is as it is. We make the phenomena. And you think that you "SEE" what is there? Simple as that. No, what happens is that your two eyes focus a 2D image onto the back of your eyes. Hold on. First, you believe both that (a) there are no external phenomena, and (b)...
by Terrapin Station
Tue May 11, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 289
Views: 3930

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

Phenomena are not outside. The world is as it is. We make the phenomena. And you think that you "SEE" what is there? Simple as that. No, what happens is that your two eyes focus a 2D image onto the back of your eyes. Hold on. First, you believe both that (a) there are no external phenomena, and (b)...