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You are a sex tourist who rents wives. Of course you pay for everything.

Huh? There have been Empires that were not Monotheistic (Rome for the first 600 years, Egypt, Babylon and more). There have also been Empires with diverse religions (the Mongols, who had the largest empire of all time and adopted a variety of religions from their conquests). Of course all of these ...

A person can most definitely predict without knowing, there is an entire gambling industry predicated on exactly that. If his prediction were ever to be 100% guaranteed to be correct every time, as God's is, then it's certainly a form of knowing. There would be no important distinction between know...

You always have to explain everything to IC twice because he likes to leave the first explanation out of what he quotes and pretend it wasn't written. I don't think I've ever seen himn argue in good faith.

Actually, that's not the case. If, say, there are multiple possibilities or routes that one could choose, it makes no difference at all what God knows about that. Unless he's "rigging the game," you still get to make your choice, you still don't know which one you're going to choose, in a...

No, that's true. You're right...it didn't explicitly say that. But it assumes it. It assumes that prediction (which is a form of knowledge, obviously) entails predetermination (which entails the arranging or engineering of a result). That's what's called, "assuming the conclusion," and it...

Well, that sort of form, maybe...but the obvious error in premise 1 would make that syllogism invalid. It does not follow that God has to make things happen deterministically in order to foresee them, since seeing is not the same as making happen. So the amphiboly error that Harbal made would simpl...

Well, that sort of form, maybe...but the obvious error in premise 1 would make that syllogism invalid. It does not follow that God has to make things happen deterministically in order to foresee them, since seeing is not the same as making happen. So the amphiboly error that Harbal made would simpl...

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:03 pm There are many specific reasons and causes why feeding heavily r-sexually selected people, does not work, does not produce the desired outcome. But that's for another time, perhaps, for those who are more *ehem* open-minded.

"r-sexually"?

syllogism If the future is not predetermined, God could be mistaken when predicting future happenings. God cannot be mistaken when predicting future happenings. Therefore the future is predetermined. Something like that? Well, that sort of form, maybe...but the obvious error in premise 1 would make...

Lorikeet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:54 pm they assume that objectivity is the same for all

Erm...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:31 pm syllogism

If the future is not predetermined, God could be mistaken when predicting future happenings.
God cannot be mistaken when predicting future happenings.
Therefore the future is predetermined.

Something like that?

Part 1: Continued rambling preambling (Skip this if you don't like long posts) This is a continuation of a very sensible effort to construct a moral-KFC-Bucket-Thing that is less shit than the morality-proper-KFC that VA has been serving up for a decade or so, and in so doing, perhaps we might also...

Say what you like about Advocate, but at least his version of that would fit into a fortune cookie with nothing of significance lost.

The levels of your self-delusions are breathtaking. You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper, not seemingly capable of joining up the dots. To be fair, the paper he is referencing is not only very very disimilar to anyting VA argues, but it is also far too clever and technical for VA to even und...