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by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 8:33 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9983
Views: 912788

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

If a claim is subjective, you cannot check it against anything, and that subsequently brings into question whther it can have a truth value at all. That would make subjective morality pretty well useless. Morality is useful for what we use it for, which is a set of social practises that make it pos...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 7:42 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9983
Views: 912788

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

As far as I am concerned, "objectively moral", is a contradiction in terms. Objectivity is the default position. Everything's objective. My desires. Your desires. The fact that your desires conflict with my desires. Objective facts everywhere. There's no contradiction until you make up th...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 2:46 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 813
Views: 45593

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

The people who created these pictures could only work with the content of their imagination. So they had to imagine that God would seek out and assemble all the molecules of their former bodies and then rejoin them with their •soul•. Yet the entire story, for us, is absurd on a dozen levels. God co...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 1:04 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9983
Views: 912788

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

In the same way that "stopping at red lights at intersections" is an objective standard of conduct. One can have other standards of conduct at intersections ... roundabouts, various configurations of stop signs, yield signs, various rules for unmarked intersections. I think maybe you neve...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 1:02 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 813
Views: 45593

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Added note: … Note: I was reminded of this Ultimate Condemnatory Sixties song when reading your post. Here You have been blathering about all this pseudo-Christian neo-trad fraudulent nonsense for months (years given that it is just some old Gustav BJ rubbish you dug up), yet you don't even know en...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 12:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9983
Views: 912788

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

In the same way that "stopping at red lights at intersections" is an objective standard of conduct. One can have other standards of conduct at intersections ... roundabouts, various configurations of stop signs, yield signs, various rules for unmarked intersections. I think maybe you neve...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Beginner's Guide to Kant's Moral Philosophy
Replies: 3
Views: 34

Re: Beginner's Guide to Kant's Moral Philosophy

YT links are case-sensitive and shouldn't be edited in MS Word https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2fvTvtzBM Obviously Kant's moral theory is of the rule following variety AKA deontological. And the video comes with this description: A simple introduction to Kant’s Categorical Imperative and his deont...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 9:09 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: What's your favorite verse from a song?
Replies: 16
Views: 249

Re: What's your favorite verse from a song?

Bowie... Quicksand I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man Just a mortal with the potential of a superman I'm living on I'm tethered to the logic of Homo Sapien Can't take my eyes from the great salvation Of bullshit faith If I don't explain what you ought to know You can tell me all about it on the ne...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 8:56 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 813
Views: 45593

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

OK. Sorry. Should I call you an "ignoramus" too? I mean, just as a joke. You won't take it badly, will you? I have an idea: call me, refer to me, exactly and precisely how you think I am. Neither less nor more. Fair enough. I don't think you're an ignoramus. No? Quite aside from his grott...
by FlashDangerpants
Tue May 07, 2024 12:09 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 813
Views: 45593

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Could you present me with the passages that support that? I would like to see. 1 Corinthians 15:35-44 Most are familiar with that bit of scripture. In no sense does it support the notion of a return to a physical body in this world. Precisely the opposite. https://www.catholic.com/tract/resurrectio...
by FlashDangerpants
Mon May 06, 2024 11:29 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 813
Views: 45593

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

The original expectation was that the righteous people would return to the world in a physical form. The eternal life would be here. Some sort of eternal life in"heaven" was a later addition/change. Could you present me with the passages that support that? I would like to see. Corinthians...
by FlashDangerpants
Mon May 06, 2024 10:38 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9977
Views: 1103436

Re: What could make morality objective?

Sigh. I wonder if he'll ever make the breakthrough to understanding that the truth of a premise (or premises) and the validity of a conclusion are all that matter in any kind of argument. At his current rate of not progress, I can't see it ever happening for him. There is no way you will ever get h...
by FlashDangerpants
Sun May 05, 2024 8:12 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9983
Views: 912788

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

That's exactly why I asked you what the "betterness" is a proprty of. Surely you agree that the wavelength of light is a property of the light not a property of our beliefs about the light? That's the sort of of objectivity that makes sicence possible. Morals have no equivalent objective ...
by FlashDangerpants
Sun May 05, 2024 7:55 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9983
Views: 912788

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

If you don't use the concept of "betterness' then you can't make any decisions at all. Not just in morality but in everything. The point is that "betterness" is not based entirely in your feelings. Of what is "betteness" a property other than human judgements? There is noth...
by FlashDangerpants
Sun May 05, 2024 7:38 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9983
Views: 912788

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

For that you just moved the same problem onto another entity. By making the 'objective' wrongness conditional on the rightness of property and the 'betterness' of other uses for it. The imperative is hypothecated on the prudential assumption that it is good not to take property away from people, an...