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henry quirk wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:35 pm

Nope. One is valid, the other is hooey. Never mind, Flash, as you (essentially) say 'you got better things to do'.

Indeed, I am now off to the pub, see you guys later.

So God can reassign gender then. He could indeed, if we're speaking in theory. But does He? Do we have even one case of Him doing so? No, obviously. So it is metaphysically possible to change from man to woman (an admission that in iteslf disproves your own argument), and now the question is merely...

Meh, that'll do. The other one works for me too though. They are both valid enough ways of describing the matter in their own right, as long as you understand the limits of the claims that can be made from either position is a function of the very limited justification available in such matters. But...

What part of It is entirely moot, there is no objective way to determine how categories should apply because they are shifted by consensus. Skepdick is correct in this matter. Is beyond your understanding Henry? It's not evasion, it's a true answer. You wanted to know what my opinion was, that's it....

henry quirk wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:50 pm

So, you won't answer the question?

You have my full answer.

... and therefore it entails that sinners can not be saved... Was human agency only involved, you would be absolutely correct. I commend you for that. Unfortunately for that argument, salvation is from God, the very One who constituted reality in the first place. And while no man can make one thing...

No. But if he thinks he can, then if he had any logic in his head he would have to realize that there would be no such thing as a "woman" anyway. Gender would then be an illusion only and if his male-genderedness is an illusion, so is his potential "womanness." There would be no such thing as eithe...

nope No. But if he thinks he can, then if he had any logic in his head he would have to realize that there would be no such thing as a "woman" anyway. Gender would then be an illusion only and if his male-genderedness is an illusion, so is his potential "womanness." There would be no such thing as ...

This argument has been examined and it failed.... So you say. I wonder if anybody, even you, thinks it's true. I don't. You know perfectly well that it's a bust. You have been avoiding the circularity problem because you realise you have left yourself no way out of it. It's weird to see somebody wh...

Okay, now. I've left it long enough for people to weigh in if they want to. There are a lot of points that need to be made here. The first, and most important, is to realize that the Equality Feminist explanation and the Uniqueness Feminist explanation are rationally totally mutually-excluding, tot...

And one more time for luck At the heart of your argument is a claim you cannot justify; that if essentialism is incorrect this by itself entails a complete lack of use for the concepts of gender. That claim depends on essences being required for categories to have any purpose, use or meaning. That i...

But since I have, as yet, made no argument from your views, and since you haven't even provided enough specific information for me to know which argument is relevant to your case, there's no circularity...because the argument hasn't been made yet. :shock: At the heart of your argument is a claim yo...

What I need from you are specifics, if I'm going to have any hope of treating your view fairly. My view is that circular arguments don't work very well. The specifics are below... At the heart of your argument is a claim you cannot justify; that if essentialism is incorrect this by itself entails a...

Are you planning to resurrect your gender doesn't exist if there's no essence routine or are you just hoping to force me to take your own view on something now? No. I'm just still trying to figure out what actually "differences" you feel prepared to stand behind in regards to man and woman. So far,...

... there is a difference. There is clearly a mix of biological and social differences..." Great. There are differences, you say. Now, what, in specific are these "differences" of yours? Well some of them are biological you see. But others are social. It's really as much a matter of convention as a...