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by wtf
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:29 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

My cutting in on the discussion was concerning the definition of a radian, not the definition of the argument type of the sine function. It was here that you seemed to be quite adamant about a definition contrary to all the published ones I can find. I'm mindful that I seem to be in disagreement wi...
by wtf
Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

I hate to butt in and especially counter what wtf is saying concerning a subject about which I know far less, but every definition I can find says that the radian is a measurement of an angle, not a length measurement of any kind. Most definitely. The Wiki page on the sine function starts by saying...
by wtf
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:22 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

you are incapable to see reason and logic. I'll put my posting history on this forum up against that statement. Tell me about this sin(1) thing again. You don't think 1 radian is the measure of some angle? I don't care if you stop responding without ever having engaged with a single point I've made...
by wtf
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

The Sin function is DEFINED otherwise. It is defined as the farther side of a right-angle triangle devided by the longest side of a right-sided triangle. T In high school, yeah. Not once you take some math classes at the university level. This is actually an important point, because in ancient time...
by wtf
Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:26 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

ps -- I'm writing this as a separate post because I want to call attention to it in isolation. In your point (which I still don't get) about sin(1), you are trying to make the point that sin is a function of an angle. But you are acting like sin(1) is not defined while sin(pi) is. But 1 is indeed th...
by wtf
Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:21 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

You can only take the sinus function and the tangent function of ANGLES. This is an irrefutable fact of math. That's not a fact of math. That's a fact of your limited knowledge of math. It's a function of the level at which your math education ended. The sine function is defined in terms of the com...
by wtf
Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:05 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

Yet you must also admit that sinus and tangent can only be taken of angles. Oh I see your mistaken point. No, sin is best understood as a map from the complex numbers to themselves defined by an infinite series. It inputs a complex number and outputs a complex number. If you restrict it to the real...
by wtf
Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:04 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

What is the value (to as many decimal places as you wish) of sin(1radian)? What is the value of tan (2Radians)? I'd write them as sin(1) and sin(2), respectively. They're irrational numbers so that their complete decimal representation can't be written down. That's a defect in decimal expressions, ...
by wtf
Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:38 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

WTF, you still haven't answered MY question. @-1- You raised a number of actually good points. I do have responses which I'll post later. By the way are you asking me for the sin of 2 radians? Or 2 pi radians? I confess I don't understand the point of the question either way but I just want to be s...
by wtf
Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:19 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

A Euclidean plane is not measuring REAL distances. It is a conceptual plane. The answer to your question is square root of two in units of unit length . You still haven't answered my questions though. This is it, a bit paraphrased (although your answer to my original question will be accepted too, ...
by wtf
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

I have seen people melt down on forums before because they backed the wrong horse, so to speak, and they got so emotionally entangled in their own confusion that they temporarily lost their mind. Project much? Just answer my question. What's the distance on the Euclidean plane between the origin an...
by wtf
Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

And this is the first time I am disagreeing with WTF... I don't know where he went wrong with this. He is a fine feller, or woman-feller, whom I look up to. But here s/he WT fucked up big time. You're deranged. I won't be responding to the rest of this. ps -- Thanks for the kind words. But to deny ...
by wtf
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:43 pm

I win the debate.
Yes you're a master debater.
by wtf
Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:42 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

I am not talking about trigonometry Don't know much about geography, Don't know much trigonometry Don't know much about algebra, Don't know what a slide rule is for But I do know that one and one is two, And if this one could be with you What a wonderful world this would be https://www.youtube.com/...
by wtf
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form
Replies: 65
Views: 1467

Re: The Foundation of the "degree" as relation of Geometric Form

No, but rather it is inherently connected. While the radian may be the common measure, it is so because of the degree being the measurement system which provided its foundations. That's completely wrong, as I explained in my previous reply to you. If there were 359 or 478 or 3434 degrees in a circl...