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by wtf
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:51 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1411

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

That's why Skepdick (Logik, Univalence, Timeseeker) presents us with a baffling psychological mistery, how can someone literally not understand anything. Provided that he isn't a chatbot, but he doesn't seem to be one. Skepdick is Logik. Duh!! All is clear now. I can be so naive sometimes. Thanks.
by wtf
Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuous limit
Replies: 12
Views: 223

Re: Continuous limit

Is n in the definiton of limit is finite? If yes, we are dealing with discrete regime. I am wondering how you could have continuous regime when you are in discrete regime!? You are repeating yourself. I met you more than halfway in trying to understand your point. I agree that there is a very long ...
by wtf
Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:24 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuous limit
Replies: 12
Views: 223

Re: Continuous limit

ps -- I think what you're getting at is that calculus is a brilliant formalism for approaching the continuous from the realm of the discrete. And maybe the question is, what's really going on? This is a very old question. In Newton's time people thought in terms of infinitesimals but it was very con...
by wtf
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:10 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuous limit
Replies: 12
Views: 223

Re: Continuous limit

If the integral is the area under the curve and the derivative is the tangent of a curve at a given point then integral and derivative are continuous concepts. Yes, that's the freshman calculus point of view. But there are more abstract and general viewpoints on integrals and derivatives that exten...
by wtf
Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:40 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuous limit
Replies: 12
Views: 223

Re: Continuous limit

Integral and derivative are continuous concepts. Even that's not true. For integrals, consider a finite sum is a special case of an integral, as in for example the case of an integral with respect to counting measure. For derivatives, consider the calculus of finite differences. https://math.stacke...
by wtf
Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuous limit
Replies: 12
Views: 223

Re: Continuous limit

The continuous regime is defined as the limit of the discrete regime when 1/N (infinitesimal) tends to zero (or N tends to infinity). N tends to infinity but never becomes infinity, so it is finite. But we are in the discrete regime when N is finite. So either the definition of the continuous regim...
by wtf
Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:40 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1411

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

Skepdick wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:49 am
Duh! All forms of language are "just symbols". Until interpreted by something or somebody they have no inherent meaning.
At the risk of once again feeling like a fool for thinking there is rational dialog to be had with you: Isn't this point exactly what I'm trying to explain to you?
by wtf
Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:52 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1411

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

The fact that you actually can't tell the difference between Strings and Integers (or characters and digits) is precisely the bug in your Mathematical brain. The distinction is completely arbitrary and is implemented by the writers of the interpreter. It's not God-given or fundamental in any way. Y...
by wtf
Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:20 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1411

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

Strings are not Integers. Neither in Python (interpreted language) nor in C++ (compiled language). Completely missing the point of what I wrote. Missing every aspect, nuance, and subtlety of what I wrote, at every level of meaning . A display of obliviousness that literally precludes intelligent co...
by wtf
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:53 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1411

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

https://repl.it/repls/BraveBlankEvaluations print('0000' == 1) # => False print(len('0000')) # => 4 print(type('0000')) # => <class 'str'> print(type(1)) # => <class 'int'> This shows an astonishing lack of understanding. Surely you know that Python is an interpreted language. That means that when ...
by wtf
Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:31 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1411

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

commonsense wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:28 pm
Numbers are grounded in counting ones, not zeros. We count [1]’s. Zero counts as no [1]’s.
Why would it matter? Why couldn't I just count zeros?

0, 00, 000, 0000, 00000, ...

Works just as well as 1's, right?
by wtf
Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Counter-intuitive formulas?
Replies: 3
Views: 147

Re: Counter-intuitive formulas?

Speakpigeon wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:17 am
Are there propositional logic formulas, outside self-referential ones, whose validity or invalidity is often perceived as counter-intuitive?
EB
https://xkcd.com/179/
by wtf
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 3775

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

I wonder why you insist I've made any error given that I never made any such claims in context of Turing's conception/definition? YOU brought that to the table. Not me. You made the claim that .999... will "never halt." By that (stupid) criterion NO real number is computable. Hence my observation t...
by wtf
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 3775

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

The fact that you are talking about numbers (they don't exist!) and not alphabets , is only more evidence that you don't understand that Mathematics is just a formal language. Notation is all. I wonder why you won't address your error in claiming .999... is not a computable real number; and your to...
by wtf
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 3775

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

Skepdick wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:24 pm
In the bin.
You totally misunderstand everything Turing said. It's pathetic. Flap your arms and throw insults if it makes you feel better.