Mechanical Knowledge is Injurious to Man and Nature

[JohnMuthukat]

Mankind, like millions of the rest species in nature, lived for millions of years without books or even without writing. The invention of writing has been a very recent phenomenon in the evolutionary timescale-- approximately in 200 B.C. when the first use of ideograms began. And the last 2500 years constitutes just a split second or merely a blink in geological time spanning billions of years of earth. Most other animals, including the pre-modern humans, knew a better way to live, and didn't need sophisticated language or technology to do so. This study finds out that the topmost problems that mankind faces today are generated not due to the shortage of knowledge but by the overabundance and the subsequent degeneration of the present knowledge. Many sages and saints who have taught the higher spiritual value were themselves illiterate. For them knowledge is an organic whole. In ancient times, this highest knowledge was transmitted orally and even now many philosophers disregard the written word.

However, today knowledge for modern man has not only become such an essential inescapability like air and water but also that he has to continuously keep on updating his mechanical knowledge. This is primarily due to the fact that man today no longer lives in nature but in what is called the ‘second nature’ which is exclusively erected by the development, accumulation and codification of mechanical knowledge in modern history. Lately called as TECHNOSPHERE, this ‘second nature’ of man signifies the exploitation of knowledge through its mechanical production by the university industry, its further development, accumulation, synthetic preservation, codification, compartmentalization, specialization, fragmentation, isolation and finally like the inevitable fate of every man-made devices, this synthetic knowledge too, along with the empire it built—the technosphere—is on the verge of degeneration and demise.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Mankind, like millions of the rest species in nature, lived for millions of years without books or even without writing. The invention of writing has been a very recent phenomenon in the evolutionary timescale-- approximately in 200 B.C.
Try, approximately 3400 BC for cuneiform, first writing system.

when the first use of ideograms began.
6600 BC for ideograms.
And the last 2500 years constitutes just a split second or merely a blink in geological time spanning billions of years of earth. Most other animals, including the pre-modern humans, knew a better
Quantify "better."
way to live, and didn't need sophisticated language or technology to do so. This study finds out that the topmost problems that mankind faces today are generated not due to the shortage of knowledge but by the overabundance and the subsequent degeneration of the present knowledge. Many sages and saints who have taught the higher spiritual value were themselves illiterate. For them knowledge is an organic whole. In ancient times, this highest knowledge was transmitted orally and even now many philosophers disregard the written word.

However, today knowledge for modern man has not only become such an essential inescapability like air and water but also that he has to continuously keep on updating his mechanical knowledge. This is primarily due to the fact that man today no longer lives in nature but in what is called the ‘second nature’ which is exclusively erected by the development, accumulation and codification of mechanical knowledge in modern history. Lately called as TECHNOSPHERE, this ‘second nature’ of man signifies the exploitation of knowledge through its mechanical production by the university industry, its further development, accumulation, synthetic preservation, codification, compartmentalization, specialization, fragmentation, isolation and finally like the inevitable fate of every man-made devices, this synthetic knowledge too, along with the empire it built—the technosphere—is on the verge of degeneration and demise.

Yes, mankind does tend to live beyond his means, so do you have solution? I would like to know, because I also see that mankind is killing himself to live.

[JohnMuthukat]

The solution will automatically become clear once we can understand the cause behind the causes of our problems. And it is no easy process that this is a step-by-step process and that we cannot overstep this process.

Just imagine the following scenario: You are riding comfortably on train. You look out of the window and see that not too far ahead the tracks end abruptly and that the train will derail if it continues moving ahead. You suggest that the train must stop immediately and that the passengers must go forward on foot. This will require a major shift in everyone’s way of traveling, of course, but it appears to you to be the only realistic option; to continue barreling forward is to court catastrophic consequences. But, when you propose this course of action, others who have grown comfortable riding on the train say: “Well, we like the train, and getting off it is not realistic.”

In the modern society, we are trapped in a similar delusion. We are told that it is “realistic” to capitulate to the absurd idea that the systems in which we live are the only systems possible or acceptable because most people, having long addicted to the ongoing system, like them and wish them to continue. The problem is not that modern world or modern mankind does not know its predicaments and their solution but that, in doing so, it does not want any compromise in its present status of convenience and ease, even if it meant the extinction of mankind, as a species.

To address the fundamental pathogens, humanity will be required to turn away from the conventional concepts and approaches of our institutions. This fundamental change in direction is fraught with anguish, as old ideas die hard. Illness today is more mental than physical, more social than material, and more complex than particular and more system-related than individual person-related. There simply cannot be any individual or even sectarian solution to a chronic problem that is more social than material, more mental than physical, more complex than particular, more civilizational than natural, more environmental than individual-based, more global than sectarian and more fundamental than anything superficial. Increase in the prevalence of obesity, for example, is the result of several economic changes that have altered the lifestyle choices of people, especially the people of the developed world. Hence these choices are beyond the individual’s control. Here even the so-called holistic remedies too will have only very limited roles to play if the approach is only on individual basis.

It is now clear that the developing dysfunctionality of modern society and mankind has indeed been an obvious pattern in its systematic development since the onset of modern era. Therefore we cannot suddenly find fault with the present leaders and institutions, let alone the people at large, for this vicious development. We, including the leaders and the institutions, are all the latest products of this long violent mechanical systems and their dysfunctional development. The present human society, including its leaders, the institutions, the religions and even the corporate leadership, are indeed the captives of the long mechanized societal system that has long become supra-human.

I think the problem here our inability to think and act like normal/natural/pristine human beings. We live in a universe of natural laws that, despite its monumental size and changeability, is nevertheless orderly and intelligible. The way we approach reality will influence the kind of reality we create. However today, we have created a technological juggernaut which is now clearly ‘Out of Control’. For millions of years, the time span needed to double our knowledge took hundreds of thousands of years, whereas now it takes approximately three years, and this ‘doubling’ time is shortening ever more, leading to speculation that there will be a hypothetical point in near future called the Singularity, where knowledge will double in a single moment, leaving mankind utterly unable to even understand what is happening.

Man is capable of solving any problem that he faces today but only if he can understand it. Today there is a widening gulf between modern knowledge and understanding.

It is not a lack of knowledge, per se, that is our problem. There is a huge gulf between the knowledge we do have, and the understanding what that knowledge means, how it fits together and how it is, in fact, an intimate part of our daily lives. Knowledge is wonderful, but if it isn’t understood, it is useless. Then add to it, the maze of conflicting, often hostile arguments and counter-arguments about what is right or wrong, good or bad, healthy or unhealthy, scientific or quackery and you have a mutating life form which continues to feed on itself. While science functions purely on knowledge, nature functions on understanding, which is holistic. Machine-assisted modern knowledge is just a huge machinery that has turned modern man into a soulless and robot-like thinking machine. While knowledge is the resource to solve a problem, understanding is the ability to use those resources to solve the problem automatically and naturally—without any side effects or aftereffects. In order to go from knowledge to understanding, one must have real-world insight which is present only in the territory of the live organic species. In living creatures programs are called understandings. And modern mankind, especially the scientific community, lost its understanding ability once it turned into soulless, robot-like thinking machine.

The greatest problem or the most alarming problem before the world today is that its leader, namely, the hi-tech modern man is such a highly reduced species—literally a parasite—that has outgrown its host that he simply cannot understand the real problems faced by himself today, let alone be able to solve them. Because of a highly mechanized breed, he cannot understand anything that is natural or anything that is not analytically, compartmentally and mechanically explained or anything that is natural. With his common sense under siege and being long mechanically addicted, modern man wants everything in easy-to-read and ready-to-use mode—as compact as ‘pills that thrills’. It seems difficult for him to understand multiple subjects put together or themes that require multi-disciplinary perceptions. The typical modern man is such a devious parasite that it can only thrive on problems of man.

Today man is a vastly reduced human species, a close-ended synthetic creature—a caricature of the once natural organic species that inhabited this planet for millions of years unto the late 18th century. The inability to feel and sense this clear suicidal state of mankind by almost 99% of the population is the number one problem human society faces today. This is largely because of the mechanization of modern man who has become more a product of the market and the mechanical systems, and no longer a creation of nature. Modern man is not able to solve the human problem because, having been long mechanized since about the last two centuries, and having thus become the product of machination, modern man is unable to think or act like normal human being.

[SpheresOfBalance]

The solution will automatically become clear once we can understand the cause behind the causes of our problems. And it is no easy process that this is a step-by-step process and that we cannot overstep this process.

Just imagine the following scenario: You are riding comfortably on train. You look out of the window and see that not too far ahead the tracks end abruptly and that the train will derail if it continues moving ahead. You suggest that the train must stop immediately and that the passengers must go forward on foot. This will require a major shift in everyone’s way of traveling, of course, but it appears to you to be the only realistic option; to continue barreling forward is to court catastrophic consequences. But, when you propose this course of action, others who have grown comfortable riding on the train say: “Well, we like the train, and getting off it is not realistic.”

In the modern society, we are trapped in a similar delusion. We are told that it is “realistic” to capitulate to the absurd idea that the systems in which we live are the only systems possible or acceptable because most people, having long addicted to the ongoing system, like them and wish them to continue. The problem is not that modern world or modern mankind does not know its predicaments and their solution but that, in doing so, it does not want any compromise in its present status of convenience and ease, even if it meant the extinction of mankind, as a species.

To address the fundamental pathogens, humanity will be required to turn away from the conventional concepts and approaches of our institutions. This fundamental change in direction is fraught with anguish, as old ideas die hard. Illness today is more mental than physical, more social than material, and more complex than particular and more system-related than individual person-related. There simply cannot be any individual or even sectarian solution to a chronic problem that is more social than material, more mental than physical, more complex than particular, more civilizational than natural, more environmental than individual-based, more global than sectarian and more fundamental than anything superficial. Increase in the prevalence of obesity, for example, is the result of several economic changes that have altered the lifestyle choices of people, especially the people of the developed world. Hence these choices are beyond the individual’s control. Here even the so-called holistic remedies too will have only very limited roles to play if the approach is only on individual basis.

It is now clear that the developing dysfunctionality of modern society and mankind has indeed been an obvious pattern in its systematic development since the onset of modern era. Therefore we cannot suddenly find fault with the present leaders and institutions, let alone the people at large, for this vicious development. We, including the leaders and the institutions, are all the latest products of this long violent mechanical systems and their dysfunctional development. The present human society, including its leaders, the institutions, the religions and even the corporate leadership, are indeed the captives of the long mechanized societal system that has long become supra-human.

I think the problem here our inability to think and act like normal/natural/pristine human beings. We live in a universe of natural laws that, despite its monumental size and changeability, is nevertheless orderly and intelligible. The way we approach reality will influence the kind of reality we create. However today, we have created a technological juggernaut which is now clearly ‘Out of Control’. For millions of years, the time span needed to double our knowledge took hundreds of thousands of years, whereas now it takes approximately three years, and this ‘doubling’ time is shortening ever more, leading to speculation that there will be a hypothetical point in near future called the Singularity, where knowledge will double in a single moment, leaving mankind utterly unable to even understand what is happening.

Man is capable of solving any problem that he faces today but only if he can understand it. Today there is a widening gulf between modern knowledge and understanding.

It is not a lack of knowledge, per se, that is our problem. There is a huge gulf between the knowledge we do have, and the understanding what that knowledge means, how it fits together and how it is, in fact, an intimate part of our daily lives. Knowledge is wonderful, but if it isn’t understood, it is useless. Then add to it, the maze of conflicting, often hostile arguments and counter-arguments about what is right or wrong, good or bad, healthy or unhealthy, scientific or quackery and you have a mutating life form which continues to feed on itself. While science functions purely on knowledge, nature functions on understanding, which is holistic. Machine-assisted modern knowledge is just a huge machinery that has turned modern man into a soulless and robot-like thinking machine. While knowledge is the resource to solve a problem, understanding is the ability to use those resources to solve the problem automatically and naturally—without any side effects or aftereffects. In order to go from knowledge to understanding, one must have real-world insight which is present only in the territory of the live organic species. In living creatures programs are called understandings. And modern mankind, especially the scientific community, lost its understanding ability once it turned into soulless, robot-like thinking machine.

The greatest problem or the most alarming problem before the world today is that its leader, namely, the hi-tech modern man is such a highly reduced species—literally a parasite—that has outgrown its host that he simply cannot understand the real problems faced by himself today, let alone be able to solve them. Because of a highly mechanized breed, he cannot understand anything that is natural or anything that is not analytically, compartmentally and mechanically explained or anything that is natural. With his common sense under siege and being long mechanically addicted, modern man wants everything in easy-to-read and ready-to-use mode—as compact as ‘pills that thrills’. It seems difficult for him to understand multiple subjects put together or themes that require multi-disciplinary perceptions. The typical modern man is such a devious parasite that it can only thrive on problems of man.

Today man is a vastly reduced human species, a close-ended synthetic creature—a caricature of the once natural organic species that inhabited this planet for millions of years unto the late 18th century. The inability to feel and sense this clear suicidal state of mankind by almost 99% of the population is the number one problem human society faces today. This is largely because of the mechanization of modern man who has become more a product of the market and the mechanical systems, and no longer a creation of nature. Modern man is not able to solve the human problem because, having been long mechanized since about the last two centuries, and having thus become the product of machination, modern man is unable to think or act like normal human being.

You have written quite a bit, and I can see most of it, I hope this was a paper that you previously wrote, especially since I write on the fly, and shall not be even closely matching your output.

I see this whole problem as under a microscope, one watches the cells divide, thus replicate, unendingly, as the chain reaction that it is. With regard to required resources soon the slide if filled completely, their is no room or resources for the chain reaction to continue, and it dies out. This is why I believe in the Chinese solution of mandating a max number of child births. This should have been done a long time ago and we would not be facing the problems we're facing today.

If you believe that my slide does not account for mankind's 'progress' that's not true as it's implied with ones knowledge of Darwin's theory of evolution, and how it goes without saying, as it's the law of nature to constantly select it's best options in the face of adversity, to adapt, and population has led the way in the need to adapt, such that it's a vicious circle of sorts, this whirlpool of eventual annihilation/death that you sense, seems to not be capable of self regulation, and I agree. With the mass of population being 7 billion individual minds, of myriad beliefs, how can one convince them to just throw away their selfishness, and stand naked facing the truth that no self regulation leads to annihilation. For me it's easy, while looking at the balance that ecosystem provides. mankind is unbalanced, and until he throws his selfishness away and see the oneness that we are, here in our capsule, our biosphere of balance, we are destined for our self destruction.

[JohnMuthukat]

If you believe that my slide does not account for mankind's 'progress' that's not true as it's implied with ones knowledge of Darwin's theory of evolution, and how it goes without saying, as it's the law of nature to constantly select it's best options in the face of adversity, to adapt, and population has led the way in the need to adapt, such that it's a vicious circle of sorts, this whirlpool of eventual annihilation/death that you sense, seems to not be capable of self regulation, and I agree. With the mass of population being 7 billion individual minds, of myriad beliefs, how can one convince them to just throw away their selfishness, and stand naked facing the truth that no self regulation leads to annihilation. For me it's easy, while looking at the balance that ecosystem provides. mankind is unbalanced, and until he throws his selfishness away and see the oneness that we are, here in our capsule, our biosphere of balance, we are destined for our self destruction.

In the present world today, we can generally categories it into two contradictory mode of living: In the billions of years long CYCLICAL and ORGANIC evolutionary state of nature, the environmental wealth of the earth (nations), even after billions of humans and other specious habituated this beautiful plant for millions of years, remained the same till as late as upto a couple of centuries back. But during the last few hundred years of NON-CYCLICAl and INORGANIC evolution of the mechanical or industrial state of nature, about two third of our environmental wealth is found to be used up while the number consumers of this environmental wealth having multiplied to seven or eight times. The main difference between the two modes of contradictory habitation is that while the former method depended on the fruits of nature by living in harmony with nature, the later exist by controling nature and by depending on the capital of nature which is a highly destructive, devolutionary process. And modern hi-tech civilization is now accelerating this devolution process to tipping points. Further, leading simple lives under Mother Earth’s control during the pre-modern eras, mankind has come to increase its wants to hundreds of times higher once its susteinance began to be depended on his own tools and systems.

We have only one Earth and one humanity--and one life. Our experiment with civilization has left us in a highly crippled and handicapped state. The most crucial question today is whether we still need to go with this crude experiment further.

The present problems of any nation today are not anything national, regional or local. They are not only global and civilizational in their scope but also are merely the symptoms of crises that are at their late chronic stage which can no longer be tackled by any single nation, however developed that nation be. These crises are simply an amalgam of chronic degeneration of man’s systems or tools that are today crossing national borders and ending up global.

[SpheresOfBalance]

If you believe that my slide does not account for mankind's 'progress' that's not true as it's implied with ones knowledge of Darwin's theory of evolution, and how it goes without saying, as it's the law of nature to constantly select it's best options in the face of adversity, to adapt, and population has led the way in the need to adapt, such that it's a vicious circle of sorts, this whirlpool of eventual annihilation/death that you sense, seems to not be capable of self regulation, and I agree. With the mass of population being 7 billion individual minds, of myriad beliefs, how can one convince them to just throw away their selfishness, and stand naked facing the truth that no self regulation leads to annihilation. For me it's easy, while looking at the balance that ecosystem provides. mankind is unbalanced, and until he throws his selfishness away and see the oneness that we are, here in our capsule, our biosphere of balance, we are destined for our self destruction.

In the present world today, we can generally categories it into two contradictory mode of living: In the billions of years long CYCLICAL and ORGANIC evolutionary state of nature, the environmental wealth of the earth (nations), even after billions of humans and other specious habituated this beautiful plant for millions of years, remained the same till as late as upto a couple of centuries back. But during the last few hundred years of NON-CYCLICAl and INORGANIC evolution of the mechanical or industrial state of nature, about two third of our environmental wealth is found to be used up while the number consumers of this environmental wealth having multiplied to seven or eight times. The main difference between the two modes of contradictory habitation is that while the former method depended on the fruits of nature by living in harmony with nature, the later exist by controling nature and by depending on the capital of nature which is a highly destructive, devolutionary process. And modern hi-tech civilization is now accelerating this devolution process to tipping points. Further, leading simple lives under Mother Earth’s control during the pre-modern eras, mankind has come to increase its wants to hundreds of times higher once its susteinance began to be depended on his own tools and systems.

We have only one Earth and one humanity--and one life. Our experiment with civilization has left us in a highly crippled and handicapped state. The most crucial question today is whether we still need to go with this crude experiment further.

The present problems of any nation today are not anything national, regional or local. They are not only global and civilizational in their scope but also are merely the symptoms of crises that are at their late chronic stage which can no longer be tackled by any single nation, however developed that nation be. These crises are simply an amalgam of chronic degeneration of man’s systems or tools that are today crossing national borders and ending up global.

I hear everything you say and concur. Most people of today, tend to do as you with their language on any particular subject, and it's required so as to site general categories of a more specific set of concerns that must be further explored to reveal yet other more specific areas of exploration, etc. And this I see, while helping illuminate the extent at which our civilization is affected, also creates a problem, while starting midstream and spreading out, following all the various branches and finally illuminating the smallest of capillaries, We get lost in it's complex web, but surely we have shown the extent as to it's application, all it's intricacies, but with all that focus what about actually doing something about it, and how does one do that? Well look to mans examples as solution. To dry up lakes streams and tributaries, the smallest veins, quickly, he merely builds a damn at the widest originating point that feeds all that is below it, which is that which I always address, I tend to leave the delineation of the problems extents, all those tangled branches, to others like you and focus on where we need to place the damn, to address the crux, root, or seed of the matter, and in this particular case, I see that it's mans SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems, and I also see that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality. He tries and distract himself from the truth of the inevitability of his facing the sleep of infinity, through myriad micro-dramas, that somewhat effectively, distract his attention, temporarily, but unfortunately, in their wake, they destroy the very thing which he fears being taken from him, the view of this miraculous life, absurd yes, but it is the very crux of the matter. If each one of us faces this inevitability, with smiles, as for the chance to enjoy this miraculous thing called life, for what it really is, a biosphere of complex interdependent beauty, that of a gift beyond all measure, and that our inevitability is a small price to pay for the privilege of it's witness, then mankind would be able to curb the selfishness that results from his trying to fight his way out of dealing with his final solution, which can never really be accomplished in the first place.

Mans 'current' state of nature is that of futility in any direction that you look, as to his affect.

[JohnMuthukat]

I see that it's mans SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems, and I also see that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality. .

I agree to your suggestion that it's man's SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems;I disagree to your suggestion that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality.

Never in the history of mankind have we faced so great a danger to our liberties, to our way of life, to our very existence an enemy so evil and so desperate, that no lie, no form of trickery, no deception is too great for them; to them the ends justify the means: they belong to the category of parasites, namely the modern people.

Human society has become parasitic at some stage in the civilized epochs and the process is massively spreading in modern history. Like the germs present in the highly degenerating municipal waste dump or like the people living in air conditioned and highly the consumerist lifestyle environment, modern people remain addicted to their mechanical environment and they cannot exist in free natural environment.

Among the millions of species in nature, including the humans, it is only the modern man who depends exclusively on the exploitation of another of his own species for his survival. As a widespread social malice, institutionalized by the state and societies, exploitation of man by man is largely a modern history phenomenon, thanks to the development of modern science and modern hi-tech market that patronized exploitation as its main plank of progress. Otherwise, for millions of years, man lived exploiting or feeding on only nature and on other species.

And, as this exploitation peaked with sophistication and techniques, with the help of modern science and market, the malice or the virus began to encroach even the top parasites, namely, the exploiters and their leaders— the developed nations headed by America, that are the worst hit by this vicious process. For example, today genetically altered foods are considered to be creating various serious health problems. However, while listing countries with Genetically Altered Foods and with having scores of genetically altered foods and products being introduced around the world, United States with 50+ such foods in total comes first in the list followed by Canada with 30 foods and Japan with 22 varieties of 6 crops, including soy.

A parasite is not a species, but a form of life, which preys upon many other different species. Weeds and parasites are human creations and man’s disobedience of the ‘laws of nature’ is polluting the original or natural life forms or designs of plants and animals. With regard to parasites, naturalists have long recognized what is called retrogressive metamorphosis; and parasites are as a rule admitted to be instances of degeneration.

As the parasite is always smaller and weaker than its host, modern man, a much reduced human species but with the help of modern science and market that facilitate the unfit to become mechanically fit, has ended up an effective and powerful parasite.

A parasite is a much reduced and simpler species of the same kind from which it evolved. The understanding capacity of the parasite is much lower than that of the parental species from which it evolved. Its world and its cognition capacity is severely limited to the world around it, in which, however it is an expert for exploitation for its own benefit. And it is a much self-centered and short-sighted species. Thus, it is always in search of hosts for exploitation and survival. For example, the colonialists, when they realized the fact that the exploitation on their respective lands and people got saturated, went to ‘undeveloped’ parts of the world in search of host and converted those nations as colonies fit for exploitation. Modern man is going to the moon and trying to reach other planets in search of host (extra-terrestrial life) realizing the mortal fact that his life by exploitation of planet Earth and its inhabitants has reached tipping points. Sensing hard days ahead, synthetic medical industry is going places in search of hosts (sick people) and thus spreading sickness or making favorable environment for the industry to survive in a sick world.

Today the parasitic infection of human society is chronic and global. The most alarming problem before the world today is that its leader, namely, the hi-tech modern man is such a highly reduced, literally, duplicate human species—a parasite that has outgrown its host—that he simply cannot understand the real problems faced by mankind today, let alone be able to solve them. The typical modern man is such a devious parasite that it can only thrive on problems of another man.

The concept of parasitism is defined as the degenerated system of existence. This book presents the various facets of shapes that the chronic stage of professionalism has reached by converting the once wholly productive and organic ‘noble’ mankind as now turned massively parasitic, and also exposes the looming catastrophic dangers it poses. Putting it plainly, modernism may be summarized as a super bug that has far outgrown its host, namely, the human society. That is, mankind today is suffering from an advanced stage of parasitic infection by the parasites of its own kind.

The present health care system is ill equipped to deal with this crisis, as it is not the conventional kinds of parasites like worms, insects, bacteria or virus that are the culprits, but the new parasites are humans or the man-made systems against which our conventional doctors are not familiar. For example, while approaching a doctor in getting some health care remedies, one has to be a super doctor, not only to fight the increasing number of new diseases but also to escape from the machinations of doctors and the highly manipulative medical industry.

Today one has to be a super lawyer to escape from the machinations of the present laws and lawyers; you have to be a super politician to escape from the machinations of modern politics and its godfathers. It is for no other reason Michael Ellner wrote: “Everything is upside down in today’s world. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, major media destroy information and priests destroy spirituality.”

One of the more interesting facets of parasitism is that the parasite lives an existence which often goes beyond the customary laws of nature and of man. As a parasite, modern man has a self-destructive trait. Simply put, we see more of evil than the doing good. We feel closer to evil, than to the goodness.

“They’re like locusts. They’re moving from planet to planet... their whole civilization. After they’ve consumed every natural resource, they move on...”—former U.S. President, Thomas Whitmore was thus quoted in Independence Day. Perhaps the above quote from the movie “Independence Day” won’t ever fully describe human civilization. However, right now, humanity is on that path to become a locust-like, parasitic society that will consume the resources of continent after continent, leaving behind each one a useless, polluted, toxic wasteland. Given the pattern and fashion by which he lives today, modern man is proving to be a cancerous virus that is fast vitiating and turning modern society into a giant tumor on this planet. The history of modern society is fast ending up as the story of the once beautiful and live planet that is being turned into a fragile, barren and lifeless synthetic matter.

Modern man, for the moment’s pleasure and escape, is fouling his own nest. Over-consumption and consumerism permeate modern culture. As a result of our devotion to consumerism, the movement into cities, and the loss of an appropriate worldview, our connection to the rest of the living planet has been severed. It is not surprising that the sites once occupied by most of the great cities of antiquity are now deserts. The impact of our modern industrial cities on their environment is, of course, very much greater and correspondingly more destructive.

Thus today man, as a typical parasite, does not live; he works. He works not for making something for himself but for making something for selling to others to make money so that he can buy something made by others for his consumption—a typical process of mutual exploitation. There are reportedly exclusively single item producing nations, like the machine-only producing Japan, rubber and palm oil only producing Malaysia etc. Thus, in modern society, everyone is a middleman, just a mechanically functioning machine or, literally, a half man or a duplicate man, and every nation is a giant inhuman market system.

Today not many are living with a minds but with a sharpened brains—for exploitation or parasitism. And this exactly is the history of modern society the core characteristic of which is middlemanism—an indirect life process of mutual exploitation. Modern life, through mutual exploitation, has landed mankind at what it is today. So the concern today is no longer the content but the look, the package; the concern today is no longer the well being but the “good” presentation; the concern today is no longer for future but only for the here and the now.

Parasitism and predation of one group upon another was once been the social practice of only a very small group of human population in the early period of civilization and never been a general social pattern of social existence in the millions of years long human way of life.
However today, the entire modern social system has not only become an extortion racket designed to enrich the smart middlemen at the expense of productive members of society, but has, in the ensuing parasitical culture, turned the rest of the present human population also as parasites, albeit as of a passive variety. When, as political racketeers, economic cannibals and social parasites, the smart middlemen become richer, by selling and destroying everything natural and life-sustaining for a buck, the entire humanity becomes poorer.

In the past, man lived mostly as hunter gatherer, as nomadic or in particular clan-centered small settlements, and thus always away from the mechanical systems of rulers who were confined to small towns. And thus almost 99 percent of human population, in the millions of years long human history, prior to modern history, were productive species—not parasitic.

[SpheresOfBalance]

I see that it's mans SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems, and I also see that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality. .

I agree to your suggestion that it's man's SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems;I disagree to your suggestion that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality.

To simply state that you don't believe it, without an opposing view as to the answer, and then continue with your paper(s) is hardly productive with respect to our conversation. If you'd like I shall 'leave' you to simply continue to post all your paper(s) much like our old ex-regular Barbra Brooks used to do, without any further invlovement. She was a cut and paste queen.

[JohnMuthukat]

I see that it's mans SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems, and I also see that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality. .

I agree to your suggestion that it's man's SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems;I disagree to your suggestion that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality.

To simply state that you don't believe it, without an opposing view as to the answer, and then continue with your paper(s) is hardly productive with respect to our conversation. If you'd like I shall 'leave' you to simply continue to post all your paper(s) much like our old ex-regular Barbra Brooks used to do, without any further invlovement. She was a cut and paste queen.

My contention was that man's SELFISHNESS is of a very recent origin in the millions of years long human life on this planet. And this sudden development is because of his devolution or degeneration--not evolution--as a parasitical species of late in history and this characteristics is developed from his not using his own innate brain/mind/consciousness but by using someone’s mechanized knowledge which is a borrowed dead ingredient in the mutation process and the process leads to degeneration.

Thus my conclusion that Mechanical Knowledge Is Injurious To Man And Nature.

We are here dealing with a topic that is highly generalizing, multi-disciplinary and beyond civilization in scope. And I am here responding to your opinions by the help of my own thinking--have written two books on similar topics as the one we are dealing.

You wrote: “If you'd like I shall 'leave' you to simply continue to post all your paper(s)”
Well, that is up to you. Thank you for your participation till now.

[SpheresOfBalance]

I see that it's mans SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems, and I also see that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality. .

I agree to your suggestion that it's man's SELFISHNESS that is the origin of his problems;I disagree to your suggestion that the cause of this selfishness is the fear of his own mortality.

To simply state that you don't believe it, without an opposing view as to the answer, and then continue with your paper(s) is hardly productive with respect to our conversation. If you'd like I shall 'leave' you to simply continue to post all your paper(s) much like our old ex-regular Barbra Brooks used to do, without any further invlovement. She was a cut and paste queen.

My contention was that man's SELFISHNESS is of a very recent origin in the millions of years long human life on this planet. And this sudden development is because of his devolution or degeneration--not evolution--as a parasitical species of late in history and this characteristics is developed from his not using his own innate brain/mind/consciousness but by using someone’s mechanized knowledge which is a borrowed dead ingredient in the mutation process and the process leads to degeneration.

Thus my conclusion that Mechanical Knowledge Is Injurious To Man And Nature.

We are here dealing with a topic that is highly generalizing, multi-disciplinary and beyond civilization in scope. And I am here responding to your opinions by the help of my own thinking--have written two books on similar topics as the one we are dealing.

You wrote: “If you'd like I shall 'leave' you to simply continue to post all your paper(s)”
Well, that is up to you. Thank you for your participation till now.

So you don't think that mans knowledge of his ultimate fate has anything to do with it? How about the fact that the formation of religion was a result of this fear, and that today man has steadily been loosing that religion to science and other things. Yes I'm saying that materialism/consumerism/consumption is the religion of the day, it's designed to consume ones time so as not to think of it, but deep in everyone's minds they are aware of the truth, and they are angry about it, and it makes them crazy.
'into this world your thrown, Like a dog without a bone.'
'What's this life for?'
More and more as our knowledge increases, we realize there is no solution, many see futility, yet cling to it, as the alternative is unthinkable, where does this leave a mind, what can happiness afford?

[JohnMuthukat]

So you don't think that mans knowledge of his ultimate fate has anything to do with it? How about the fact that the formation of religion was a result of this fear, and that today man has steadily been loosing that religion to science and other things. Yes I'm saying that materialism/consumerism/consumption is the religion of the day, it's designed to consume ones time so as not to think of it, but deep in everyone's minds they are aware of the truth, and they are angry about it, and it makes them crazy.
'into this world your thrown, Like a dog without a bone.'
'What's this life for?'
More and more as our knowledge increases, we realize there is no solution, many see futility, yet cling to it, as the alternative is unthinkable, where does this leave a mind, what can happiness afford?

For our discussion to be meaningful, I wish you come out with your own version of answers before raising these questions.

As for the development of modern religions and modern science, I don't think people at large have any role--except as the sheep domesticated by the shepherds-- in developing them to the mainstream social systems that we have today

Today man is no longer the natural/organic/pristine species that he used to be for millions of years. Today he is almost a mechanical being, a drastic structural change he has undergone since largely about the last 300 years. As the products of the modern mechanical systems—both social and material--modern people are reduced to be such system followers, that it is too much to expect them to think like the proverbial humans or being capable of exercising some other options, let alone on alternate natural lines. The long mechanization of mankind to machine kind, coupled with their prolonged exposure to only one-sided, linear or unimportant ideas and views have all left modern man’s mind highly passive and his brain highly linear, fit for only machines.

Their obese mind can never ever accommodate wholesome truth and the manly freedom. Their brain is as linear and obese as the brain of a broiler chicken which on the other hand, vastly differs from that of its natural or organic counterpart.

Today man is on the run. Comfortably seated at the machine, man has being run by the machine for quite some time in modern history. Long accustomed to be run by machines and having lost the practice of running himself anything all by himself, man seems to become heavily dependent on machine for his own running, with regards to all matters of human activities. This although he did not intent to be the case initially, has however ended him up at such an impasse that everything manly has become irrelevant to him and everything mechanical has become his routine and staple diet to the extent that to live as a human being has become unnatural to him and thus he lives as a machine – ‘naturally’.

A rational technique is wonderful today, a commercial tomorrow, a ritual a day after and a liability thereafter.

When man becomes more than 50% mechanical, he befalls into the category of parasite of that species from the once productive category. And this threshold heralds a number of accompanying changes. Firstly he turns out to be an intransigent and reactionary. He becomes mechanically active and humanly passive. As he turns addicted to the environment of his own making—machinations-- he ends up a victim of his training. Native peoples often note that civilized people typically act at cross-purposes to their stated ideals .When hunter-gatherers encounter civilized people, they often remark on how the latter appear generally to be disconnected, alienated, aggressive, controlling, easily frustrated, addictive, and obsessive. Nearly all die-hard professionals (persons solely dependent on professionalism) belong to this category of species that then go on mechanizing the environment of their influence and vicinity.

A parasite is a much reduced species of the same kind of the species from which it evolved, the understanding capacity of which is much lower than that of the parental species from which it evolved. Its world and its cognition capacity is severely limited to the world around it, in which, however it is an expert for exploitation for its own benefit. And it is a much self-centered and short-sighted species. Thus, it is always in search of hosts for exploitation and survival. For example, the colonialists, when they realized the fact that the exploitation on their respective lands and people got saturated, went to ‘undeveloped’ parts of the world in search of host and converted those nations as colonies for exploiting. Modern man is going to the moon and other planets in search of host (extra-terrestrial life) realizing the mortal fact that his life by exploitation of planet earth and its inhabitants is fast getting soaked. Sensing hard days ahead, synthetic medical industry is going places in search of hosts (sick people) and thus spreading sickness or making favorable environment for the industry to survive in a sick world.

Unwillingness or inability to feel and sense the clear suicidal state of mankind by almost 99% of the population is the number one problem that human society faces today. The inability of the majority of the people to register the problem in their mind is a deeper and more systemic problem. This is largely because of the mechanization of modern man who has become more a product of the market and the mechanical systems and no longer a product of nature. In the largely urban oriented modern human society, “biological life” has become foreign and irrelevant for most of us today.

[SpheresOfBalance]

So you don't think that mans knowledge of his ultimate fate has anything to do with it? How about the fact that the formation of religion was a result of this fear, and that today man has steadily been loosing that religion to science and other things. Yes I'm saying that materialism/consumerism/consumption is the religion of the day, it's designed to consume ones time so as not to think of it, but deep in everyone's minds they are aware of the truth, and they are angry about it, and it makes them crazy.
'into this world your thrown, Like a dog without a bone.'
'What's this life for?'
More and more as our knowledge increases, we realize there is no solution, many see futility, yet cling to it, as the alternative is unthinkable, where does this leave a mind, what can happiness afford?

For our discussion to be meaningful, I wish you come out with your own version of answers before raising these questions.

As for the development of modern religions and modern science, I don't think people at large have any role--except as the sheep domesticated by the shepherds-- in developing them to the mainstream social systems that we have today

Today man is no longer the natural/organic/pristine species that he used to be for millions of years. Today he is almost a mechanical being, a drastic structural change he has undergone since largely about the last 300 years. As the products of the modern mechanical systems—both social and material--modern people are reduced to be such system followers, that it is too much to expect them to think like the proverbial humans or being capable of exercising some other options, let alone on alternate natural lines. The long mechanization of mankind to machine kind, coupled with their prolonged exposure to only one-sided, linear or unimportant ideas and views have all left modern man’s mind highly passive and his brain highly linear, fit for only machines.

Their obese mind can never ever accommodate wholesome truth and the manly freedom. Their brain is as linear and obese as the brain of a broiler chicken which on the other hand, vastly differs from that of its natural or organic counterpart.

Today man is on the run. Comfortably seated at the machine, man has being run by the machine for quite some time in modern history. Long accustomed to be run by machines and having lost the practice of running himself anything all by himself, man seems to become heavily dependent on machine for his own running, with regards to all matters of human activities. This although he did not intent to be the case initially, has however ended him up at such an impasse that everything manly has become irrelevant to him and everything mechanical has become his routine and staple diet to the extent that to live as a human being has become unnatural to him and thus he lives as a machine – ‘naturally’.

A rational technique is wonderful today, a commercial tomorrow, a ritual a day after and a liability thereafter.

When man becomes more than 50% mechanical, he befalls into the category of parasite of that species from the once productive category. And this threshold heralds a number of accompanying changes. Firstly he turns out to be an intransigent and reactionary. He becomes mechanically active and humanly passive. As he turns addicted to the environment of his own making—machinations-- he ends up a victim of his training. Native peoples often note that civilized people typically act at cross-purposes to their stated ideals .When hunter-gatherers encounter civilized people, they often remark on how the latter appear generally to be disconnected, alienated, aggressive, controlling, easily frustrated, addictive, and obsessive. Nearly all die-hard professionals (persons solely dependent on professionalism) belong to this category of species that then go on mechanizing the environment of their influence and vicinity.

A parasite is a much reduced species of the same kind of the species from which it evolved, the understanding capacity of which is much lower than that of the parental species from which it evolved. Its world and its cognition capacity is severely limited to the world around it, in which, however it is an expert for exploitation for its own benefit. And it is a much self-centered and short-sighted species. Thus, it is always in search of hosts for exploitation and survival. For example, the colonialists, when they realized the fact that the exploitation on their respective lands and people got saturated, went to ‘undeveloped’ parts of the world in search of host and converted those nations as colonies for exploiting. Modern man is going to the moon and other planets in search of host (extra-terrestrial life) realizing the mortal fact that his life by exploitation of planet earth and its inhabitants is fast getting soaked. Sensing hard days ahead, synthetic medical industry is going places in search of hosts (sick people) and thus spreading sickness or making favorable environment for the industry to survive in a sick world.

Unwillingness or inability to feel and sense the clear suicidal state of mankind by almost 99% of the population is the number one problem that human society faces today. The inability of the majority of the people to register the problem in their mind is a deeper and more systemic problem. This is largely because of the mechanization of modern man who has become more a product of the market and the mechanical systems and no longer a product of nature. In the largely urban oriented modern human society, “biological life” has become foreign and irrelevant for most of us today.

OK, I hear you, but here's one that only you can answer, that I ask you to consider, as you post more from your book/s. How well did they sell?

[JohnMuthukat]

How well did they sell?

The book is not yet complete. Still doubting if it is worth publishing.

[SpheresOfBalance]

How well did they sell?

The book is not yet complete. Still doubting if it is worth publishing.

Is that why you're here? Are you looking for feedback to help you to decide? If so, you can forget me, as I really don't want that kind of responsibility. I'm at a place right now where I feel that knowledge is kind of volatile. I'm not necessarily capable of deciding on relative issues of importance, and would tend to feel really guilty if I let someone down, and I don't need that kind of baggage. With any luck, you'd not want me to anyway. And yes, I'm being serious, it just seems kind of funny that I should be saying this about myself, but I try and be honest at all costs.

Good Luck with the book, I wish you success.

[JohnMuthukat]

How well did they sell?

The book is not yet complete. Still doubting if it is worth publishing.

Is that why you're here? Are you looking for feedback to help you to decide? If so, you can forget me, as I really don't want that kind of responsibility. I'm at a place right now where I feel that knowledge is kind of volatile. I'm not necessarily capable of deciding on relative issues of importance, and would tend to feel really guilty if I let someone down, and I don't need that kind of baggage. With any luck, you'd not want me to anyway. And yes, I'm being serious, it just seems kind of funny that I should be saying this about myself, but I try and be honest at all costs.

Good Luck with the book, I wish you success.

The history of man is the history of man gaining self-consciousness through his interaction with the objective world surrounding him. And I don't think I am doing any serious mistake in seeking opinions of certain ideas of the book I am writing through discussions in an appropriate forum--Book Club.

Thank you for all your responses and good wishes.