If Satan exists, it is Allah

[Zenita01]

If satan exists and is Allah, and Allah and God are One and the same, then satan is also God, which is obviously completely, and literally, self-contradictory.

Only if you judge by looking through an islamic POV, for example Christianity might be compatible with this fact,
God is the only God, and Allah is Satan while God is God, it checks out

[accelafine]

Funny how fear of islam is singled out with a special word. What is it called when you hate all religious nuttery? Is 'christophobia' a thing? 'Islamophobia' is something that any normal, rational person with a sense of self-preservation would feel. It's an idiology that produces the kind of monsters who relish zip-tying children into piles and burning them alive while gleefully filming their screams. It's an ideology that encourages paedophilia, hates music, produces men who rape their daughters and then murder them for the 'shame' of having been raped etc. etc.
It's a shit-stain on the face of the planet.

[promethean75]

Barbarism, all of it. Hell look.at what the christians usta do. Bury their first born at the foot of buildings becuz they thought it would keep the buildings from falling down. Can u believe that?

Basically any time u thought god was fixin to start fuckin with u, u just murdered something and dedicated it to god. God would be like 'nice' and then leave u alone.


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[Age]

If satan exists and is Allah, and Allah and God are One and the same, then satan is also God, which is obviously completely, and literally, self-contradictory.

Only if you judge by looking through an islamic POV, for example Christianity might be compatible with this fact,
God is the only God, and Allah is Satan while God is God, it checks out

But, the words 'God' and 'Allah' mean and refer to the exact same thing, to some people. So, which people are 'right' here?

'you', or, 'them'?

[accelafine]

There is no point in trying to reason with the wokesters who defend these monsters. They are as monstrous and psychopathic as those they defend--except that they don't have the 'excuse' of fucked-up religious brain-washing from birth to explain it. All you will get are 'whataboutisms'. ''Whatabout all the other groups of (allegedly) civilised humans who are zip-tying toddlers into piles and laughing while they slowly burn to death and then posting it on the internet as a 'trophy', or beheading babies, parading raped and murdered women through the streets, killing children in front of their parents...?' There are SO many other people doing this. So many that I can't think of any...

[Age]

There is no point in trying to reason with the wokesters who defend these monsters.

Yes there is no point in trying to reason with the people like you "accelafine" who defend these monsters.

As you are clearly showing here.

They are as monstrous and psychopathic as those they defend--except that they don't have the 'excuse' of fucked-up religious brain-washing from birth to explain it.

Yes 'they' are. Again, as you are showing and proving here "accelafine".

All you will get are 'whataboutisms'. ''Whatabout all the other groups of (allegedly) civilised humans who are zip-tying toddlers into piles and laughing while they slowly burn to death and then posting it on the internet as a 'trophy', or beheading babies, parading raped and murdered women through the streets, killing children in front of their parents...?' There are SO many other people doing this. So many that I can't think of any...

Yes this is all you will get from these people like "accelafine" here.

[accelafine]

The rational arguments using logic and reason are stunning on here. Well done people.

[Age]

The rational arguments using logic and reason are stunning on here. Well done people.

Yes, well done people.

[Veritas Aequitas]

I explained my rationale twice now and you just ignored it.

What rationale? Where is your rational comparison of ISLAM to CHRISTIANITY ?
..and let's not be short of sight..ISLAMIC scripture insists on killing "INFIDELS" = non believers.

FDP is a moral skeptic and is morally indifferent to whatever is claimed to be moral by any group, culture, e.g. torturing and killing babies for pleasure.
If some groups whose God sanctions the killing, kidnaping of his babies and elders he will not have any moral say or voice on such evil acts.
The only recourse for him is to complain to some political authorities; that is OK if he is citizen in some Western Countries but not if he is a minority in Taliban, ISIS or some extremist[true] Islam countries.
Moral skeptics like FDP [moral trash] or other moral relativists do not have any inherent motivation for natural moral progress.


The point is,
every Christian and Muslim must enter [explicitly or implicitly] into a covenant [divine contract] with their respective God to comply with all the terms of contract in exchange for salvation in heaven/paradise.

The terms of contract for a Christian to comply are all in the Gospels which overriding maxim is pacifist, i.e. love all-even enemies, give the other cheek and the like.
No contracted Christians will dare to defy the above commands, else they may end up in hell.
If any "Christians" were to commit evil against the above pacifist maxim, they are doing it personally on their own as human beings and not as Christians per se in the name of Christ and God.

On the other hand, a contracted [covenanted] Muslims is obliged to kill non-believers under the slightest threat to the religion, e.g. even drawing of cartoons and the like; that is because such expected evil acts are laid out as their term of contract as a Muslim with their God.
It is a sin for a Muslim in not killing non-believers if he comes across non-believers committing threats [fasadin] against the religion. If they kill non-believers in accordance to the terms of contract, they are heavily rewarded [10x the ordinary] when in heaven.

[attofishpi]

Yes Islam and Christianity are polar opposites. Those in the West that welcome Muslim immigrants into the country are in fact welcoming people that subscribe to an evil ideology. Nobody that has this 'contract' to Islam via doctrine in the Koran should be allowed in our civilised society.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Here is a conversation between an IDF requesting a Gazan to evacuate his family to a safer place.
But the Gazan resisted and declared something like 'we are not leaving, just bomb us, we love death more than you love life'.
This is a very common claim from Islamists as being brainwashed by their religious doctrine.

Chilling Conversation Between IDF Officer And Palestinian Civilian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV5rgRNbT4o

This may be one reason why many civilians are killed beside being normal collateral events in war.

[puto]

This is not correct to say about Islam which means peace. Only an opinion is arguable, so only an opinion may serve as the thesis statement of an argument. To say Islam is evil is wrong; not only in expression and ignorance of the evidence. May that evidence be direct or indirect Islam is a peaceful religion. If your thesis needs evidence in the paragraphs; then to back-up the thesis statement. The definition of Clausewitz, "War is an act of force ... which must lead, in theory, to extremes."
Quran "Fight for the sake of Allah against those who fight against you, but do not be violent because Allah does not love aggressors." (al-Baqara 2.190). "If they incline peace; then make peace with." (al-Anfal 8.61). Present day realities are conformist. Do not propagate Islam as an act of war. The Quran is ethical. Establish forgiveness over sin. Ius in bello, "And fight in God's cause against those who wage war against you, but do not transgress limits, for God love not the transgressors" (2.190.) Do not kill innocent people.
Islam is peace which comes from submission to God's will. Do not have Islamophobia a fear of Islam and fear of Muslims.
Please do research and use induction to come to the fact the subjective responses derived from your analysis of the facts. Analysis and synthesis are two different terms in logic.
That is my opinion, I could be wrong. PS, backed up by support and warrants.

[Lorikeet]

Satanism is how Abrahamics interpret paganism.
Paganism worships nature, in the form of divine beings, so satanism, evil, becomes natural order.
This is what they refer to as the "fallen state" or what must be "healed" or "endured".
Abrahamic triad being three variants of the same spiritual nihilism going back to Gnosticism.

Satanism is an Abrahamic corruption of paganism, i.e., Indo-European spirituality.

Satan is Promethean.
Satan is Dionysian.

Satan is a representation of everything nihilists fear and despise.

[accelafine]

This is not correct to say about Islam which means peace. Only an opinion is arguable, so only an opinion may serve as the thesis statement of an argument. To say Islam is evil is wrong; not only in expression and ignorance of the evidence. May that evidence be direct or indirect Islam is a peaceful religion. If your thesis needs evidence in the paragraphs; then to back-up the thesis statement. The definition of Clausewitz, "War is an act of force ... which must lead, in theory, to extremes."
Quran "Fight for the sake of Allah against those who fight against you, but do not be violent because Allah does not love aggressors." (al-Baqara 2.190). "If they incline peace; then make peace with." (al-Anfal 8.61). Present day realities are conformist. Do not propagate Islam as an act of war. The Quran is ethical. Establish forgiveness over sin. Ius in bello, "And fight in God's cause against those who wage war against you, but do not transgress limits, for God love not the transgressors" (2.190.) Do not kill innocent people.
Islam is peace which comes from submission to God's will. Do not have Islamophobia a fear of Islam and fear of Muslims.
Please do research and use induction to come to the fact the subjective responses derived from your analysis of the facts. Analysis and synthesis are two different terms in logic.
That is my opinion, I could be wrong. PS, backed up by support and warrants.

So you are saying that it's just the people who are bat-shit insane and not the teachings of their paedophile messiah?

[Atla]

Good religions and philosophies train people to be empathetic towards outsiders too, Islam trains people to be psychopathic towards them. It's the exact opposite of humaneness. Islam is a machine that churns out little quasi-psychopaths. Everyone knows that Islam is the most evil major religion in the world and needs to be dealt with somehow, if humanity is to have a future.