godelian wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:36 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:16 pm
No it does not. Marriages that are legally instituted involve the law wherever and when ever they were.
No, the Catholic Church was dealing with marriage before the French Revolution. They didn't allow divorce. So, the situation was like in the Philippines today.
If something is 'not allowed', then that is 'the case' because of 'governments'. So, again, how can you say and claim that governments are not involved?
godelian wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:36 pm
Before the Church took control over marriage in Europe, it was handled by both families, just like in Africa still today. Even Christian Africans still rarely marry in church.
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:16 pm
Without government people would be free to dump their shit in the street.
It's a private company that collects the garbage here. If the government did it, that is when things would start going wrong.
you missed 'the point' completely, once again.
If 'the government' did not make 'the law' that 'it is illegal to dump one's shit on the street', then the claim is that some people would just 'dump their shit on the street'.
By the way, in some parts on earth private companies may well collect garbage, but who organizes them to do it when private companies do not?
godelian wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:36 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:16 pm
The "nuclear family" is an invention of Western culture.
It just means "both parents and children". It exists everywhere.
In 'your world' "godelian" can the so-called 'nuclear family' be made up of two same sex or same gendered 'parents', or is this never a possibility?
godelian wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:36 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:16 pm
It was pretty much universal.
Completely wrong. Wives in Islam have their own property and are not slaves in any way. There used to be female slaves but they were not wives.
So, to you, there is not one 'husband' in the whole of "islam" show 'slaves" 'the partner' around, correct?
godelian wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:36 pm
Again, I like it the way it is in SE Asia and I want to keep it that way.
So, once again, the 'selfishness' of, 'What I want, I want to keep', 'shows and rears its ugly head', as some say, once more.
This one felt 'hurt' in one situation, puts absolutely every one in that part of earth where it 'felt hurt' as being the exact same, and so this is all it can 'see' now.
godelian wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:36 pm
Therefore, decoupling is in my opinion necessary. The global south continues together with Russia and China on our side while the West, mostly Europe and North America, form their own separate block. I think that it is time to put the iron curtain back in place.
Okay. Would you like to draw the exact line, 'for us', where 'you' would like 'us' to construct and build the 'iron curtain', 'for you'.
Or, would 'you' like 'us' to just guess where 'you' want it, exactly?