Be careful, you're straining both digits of your IQ Hairball with your profound philosophical insights and wisdom here.
The forum can hardly contain it.
Mass porn sounds a bit messy to be honest. It might be difficult to tell what's going on, or where it's going into.phyllo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:30 am"Mass consumption man" or "mass social media man" or "mass porn man" are better and more tempting?Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:07 amIt definitely sounds more tempting than the prospect of becoming a Catholic.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:38 am
Perhaps I can tempt you with the philsophisings of Hortence P Gusset who tells us that the "mass religion man" is a phenomenon of the past and we are more or less done with it now.
It has been for me a strange but also a curious conflict. All of my personal background, my university friends and friends growing up, and myself, were of that Left-Progressive orientation. When the Left was actually a Left that could be respected -- pro-family, anti-immigration (illegal immigration), antiwar, pro-free-speech, and opposed to corporate manipulation -- their platforms made sense. But everything has switched around in very strange ways in our present. To the degree that it is hard to sort things out. In fact I do not have it sorted out. Though I am aware that power-games and power-wars are going on all around us.Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:32 amI asserted to AJ and IC a few months ago, that if any 'progress' is to made, the cultural-Right needs to set aside our differences and work together toward a common or universal goal, to counter-attack and push back the cultural-Left. IC failed to heed my warning and suggestion. However, my intentions are clear. If AJ feels my positions are problematic, I don't doubt he'd press me on them.
I realized that I had to *change my spots* and realign myself with those I described as 'the original Americans'. This also did involve a decision to consciously choose to favor those of European descent, though it is not natural for me (given my background) to see people on the basis of their race or ethnicity. And in aligning myself with *original Americans* -- those who built the country, and those who have been dispossessed by those notorious choices made when manufacturing was transferred elsewhere -- I also realized that I had to better understand, and also to respect, their religious orientation. That is their Christianity.Is it not incredible that the largest American population group, the group with the deepest roots, the most orderly and most technically proficient group, the nuclear population group of American culture and of the American gene pool, should have lost its preeminence to weaker, less established, less numerous, culturally heterogeneous, and often mutually hostile minorities?
With all due allowance for minority dynamism ... this miraculous shift of power could never have taken place without a Majority "split in the ranks" - without the active assistance and participation of Majority members themselves. It has already been pointed out that race consciousness is one of mankind's greatest binding forces. From this it follows that when the racial gravitational pull slackens people tend to spin off from the group nucleus. Some drift aimlessly through life as human isolates. Others look for a substitute nucleus in an intensified religious or political life, or in an expanded class consciousness. Still others, out of idealism, romanticism, inertia, or perversity, attach themselves to another race in an attempt to find the solidarity they miss in their own.
If that were the case I would not have a problem admitting to it. But that is not the case. My issue resolves to this: there is either a constant, ever-existing metaphysics that originated with the manifestation of this Universe and Cosmos, and there either is or there is not a supreme divinity that owns all creation and manifestation. What that is, that is to say the existence of it (the being of it), is in my conception a reality that is beyond my conceptual capacity. That is to say that I have no way to express what Existence is and no way really to comprehend it when its opposite is contemplated (no-existence). The better expression of this mystery is expressed in the Vedic language as *Sat-Chit-Ananda*. The more the mystery of existence is meditated on, the more it opens up as a puzzle, and in my own case it is there that whatever *divinity* means becomes apparent.Belief systems are the containers of intuitions which are often inculcated before they are properly examined. It seems to me - and admit I may be wrong - you are attempting to modernize Christianity into a contemporary Western system of values by stripping it of its historic religious connotations hoping to reveal its metaphysical underpinnings, i.e., its denotations into a new advanced system of values more in alignment with modern sensibilities.
Sure, that material could be presented for examination. But in the meantime we could also focus on your commitments and perhaps I could refer to your psycho-spiritual romance with the assholes of boys and young men? You did after all present it as an object of your concern.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:38 am Perhaps I can tempt you with the philsophisings of Hortence P Gusset who tells us that the "mass religion man" is a phenomenon of the past and we are more or less done with it now.
No, I cannot conceive of what you refer to as "higher", but I think that is because you are quite nuts, and I have no particular insight into that sort of thing. Seriously, you are obviously not right in the head.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:17 pm I align you with your fellow Landsman and brother Harbal. He is a man who cannot even conceive of what I refer to as *higher*. And you are a man with at least some intellectual wherewithal to destroy an alignment with that *higher set*.
You are therefore excellent products for study.
That sort of pretension is how people suffer the indignity of ending up like you.
I’ll take it duly under consideration, Flash. Count on it.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:29 pmThat sort of pretension is how people suffer the indignity of ending up like you.
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:46 pm
It has been for me a strange but also a curious conflict. All of my personal background, my university friends and friends growing up, and myself, were of that Left-Progressive orientation. When the Left was actually a Left that could be respected -- pro-family, anti-immigration (illegal immigration), antiwar, pro-free-speech, and opposed to corporate manipulation -- their platforms made sense. But everything has switched around in very strange ways in our present. To the degree that it is hard to sort things out. In fact I do not have it sorted out. Though I am aware that power-games and power-wars are going on all around us.
Idiotic argument. Back to the drawing board.Alexiev wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:41 pmAre you opposed to illegal immigration? Do you think we should give North America back to the Indians?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:46 pm
It has been for me a strange but also a curious conflict. All of my personal background, my university friends and friends growing up, and myself, were of that Left-Progressive orientation. When the Left was actually a Left that could be respected -- pro-family, anti-immigration (illegal immigration), antiwar, pro-free-speech, and opposed to corporate manipulation -- their platforms made sense. But everything has switched around in very strange ways in our present. To the degree that it is hard to sort things out. In fact I do not have it sorted out. Though I am aware that power-games and power-wars are going on all around us.
Intuition guided me to that conclusion more than thought did.
A lazy flowing river might also. Following an adventurous fly, too. But try to arrive at the same conclusive result with an Aristotelian rigor. But (to quote Wizard) don’t strain the frail double-digits!Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:03 pmIntuition guided me to that conclusion more than thought did.
If we need religion for moral, ethical and spiritual development which at best religion only provided on a very low level, it's time to take holy communion from Trump.