AJ wrote: All you do though is to mimic popular tropes. Nothing more. What does “word of God” mean? It really means metaphysical order.
Age wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 1:46 amWhat do you mean by, 'really means'?
And, what do you mean by, 'metaphysical order'?
If you do not explain these, then do you, really, understand them?
Yes, Age, I believe that I understand what I am talking about within certainly, the parameters of any personal limitations. Simultaneously I perceive that many that I interchange with here on this forum seem to me to lack an understanding of what *metaphysical* refers to -- in the sense of its
realness but its absolute non-tangibility.
The term
Word of God is a trope in its most important and relevant sense:
trope (trōp)
n.
1. A figure of speech using words in nonliteral ways, such as a metaphor.
2. A word or phrase interpolated as an embellishment in the sung parts of certain medieval liturgies.
In theological conceptualization -- and I
definitely subscribe to the realness, validity, existence and power of defined theological concepts -- the notion of Word of God really means, that is ultimately refers to, a metaphysical idea, or notion, or if you wish command, that enters our world exclusively through man. That is, only man being himself a *metaphysical creature* has the capability of receiving the types of ideas I am referring to. But to say *idea* is not enough though it will have to do for the present.
The idea of
Word of God, then, has to do with a perceived and realized sense about *order* (in Sanskrit there is a similar concept
Ṛta (/ɹ̩t̪ɐ/; Sanskrit ऋत ṛta "order, rule; truth; logos") which, coming to man from unseen reality, is then received by man and imposed, projected, installed, used as a design, for works in our concrete, tangible world.
The entire concept of a divinity, and a divine order, and the imposition of that order, and the end and purpose of such order ("order, rule; truth; logos") is what the Church attempts to build with, or in relation to, in this our world. One can speak of this in two distinct ways: 1) In the language of the faithful referring to a God who makes commands and oversees the created world, and 2) in a stricter philosophical sense as Logos: an order of ideas that arose simultaneously with the creation. So just as there are atoms and energies and all that is physical that we can sense and measure with our own senses and with sense-extensions (machines) so too everything that we refer to as *idea*, and certainly the higher realms of ideas containing far broader imperatives (design, plan, undertaking, mission) -- all of this, through non-tangible and non-locatable -- all of this is part-and-parcel of our *world*. That is, the manifest reality where we live and operate.
My interest, my focus, is in understanding the innermost dimensions of what we call The Christian Revelation. And my interest is in reading and understanding the
meaning encapsulated within these theological definitions.
Meaning is also extremely metaphysical. When we think about how something, anything, has a *meaning* that shows itself or reveals itself to an *intuitive awareness*. This is the sense of the (rather loaded and complex) word
intellectus.
My present view goes like this: Most who write on this forum, and most of us as extrusions onto the plains of Modernity, have substantially lost the capacity to grasp ideas -- impetus, inspiration, meaning -- at the metaphysical level. The conceptual pathway to this understanding has been blocked, or sometimes severed, but in any case there is enormous static and interference which makes conception next to impossible.
So all that I am writing about here is
REJECTED with no further sense of need to understand. This is, if I may be so bold,
a modern problem. It is a *problem* that has deeply infected and affected a) our own selves, b) our cultural world, c) our intellectual world.
I define myself as 1) a student of this problem of
severing away and
turning away, and 2) as a student of the processes by which one returns to the respect, recognition, valuation, elevation and protection of a) the conceptual pathway through philosophical means (to order, rule; truth; logos"0 , and b) of those entities and institutions existing in our world that are the repositories of that responsibility.
Do you suppose that I imagine I am making headway here? That is, creating arguments or presentations that convince? In fact this is not my object! I have noticed that *really hard-headed people* and those committed to a range of modern conceptual and ideological positions cannot *hear* what I am writing about. Because of the fact that the essences of all that matter for us is, when you think it through, comes to us through invisibilities. All that is non-tangible. All that is metaphysical. And what is therefore
supernatural in the theological sense.
You could -- one could -- for example despise Christianity and Catholicism with true virulence if one were inclined to that. There are many who exist within that mood. I do not recommend it. I recommend the complete opposite approach. A reevaluation, a reencounter. Even to suggest such a thing (here) will draw a rather violent species of ire from many. The idea is simply
inconceivable (in a
literal sense).
Since I am aware that nothing I can say convinces or moves anyone (by and large I mean) the reason I bother with my descriptions is to present the case to myself. Or as I say *for my own benefit*. That is all I can do: write what I think and strictly for my own purposes. It is a question of solidifying and concretizing what I believe are
the most important things about life and being alive (having existence here in a human frame).