CERN Wants to Build a Bigger, Badder Particle Collider

[socrattus]

CERN Wants to Build a Bigger, Badder Particle Collider
/By: John Perritano/
https://science.howstuffworks.com/cern- ... llider.htm
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Cern aims to build €20bn collider to unlock secrets of universe.
The first accelerator based on the principle of multiple acceleration was the cyclotron,
invented by Ernest Lawrence in 1930 (Nobel Prize 1939).
Since then, 1000 new particles have been discovered. Will new subatomic particles
close the gaps in our misunderstanding of the quantum world?

[Impenitent]

what is the benefit of making big bad particles collide?

I can see pigs squealing with pleasure if big bad wolves collided or something...

-Imp

[Age]

CERN Wants to Build a Bigger, Badder Particle Collider
/By: John Perritano/
https://science.howstuffworks.com/cern- ... llider.htm
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Cern aims to build €20bn collider to unlock secrets of universe.
The first accelerator based on the principle of multiple acceleration was the cyclotron,
invented by Ernest Lawrence in 1930 (Nobel Prize 1939).
Since then, 1000 new particles have been discovered. Will new subatomic particles
close the gaps in our misunderstanding of the quantum world?

What is the, exact, 'misunderstanding' of the so-called 'quantum world'?

The so-called 'quantum world' and so-called 'classical world' both work in the exact same way.

The only reason they appear to be different, appear to behave or work differently, and appear to be inconsistent is only because some human beings are 'looking at' them differently, and thus 'seeing' them as being different.

These human beings are not 'looking at' things from the Truly OPEN perspective, and thus why there appears, only, to be inconsistent differences.

But, how to overcome these different appearances can be explained and understood very simply, very easily, and very quickly.

[socrattus]

The so-called 'quantum world' and so-called 'classical world' both work in the exact same way.

The so-called "quantum world" and the so-called "classical world" work differently.
Many physicists have commented on this difference;
“The truth is, everyone is confused by quantum physics.”
/David Walton/
''If you are not completely confused by quantum mechanics, you do not understand it''
/ John Wheeler /
"Nobody understands quantum mechanics and that's a problem".
/Sean Carroll/
''Quantum mechanics makes absolutely no sense''
/Roger Penrose/

[Flannel Jesus]

what is the benefit of making big bad particles collide?

https://physicsworld.com/a/what-have-pa ... ne-for-us/

[Age]

The so-called 'quantum world' and so-called 'classical world' both work in the exact same way.

The so-called "quantum world" and the so-called "classical world" work differently.
Many physicists have commented on this difference;
“The truth is, everyone is confused by quantum physics.”
/David Walton/

Does this one know, for sure, what absolutely everyone else knows and/or is confused about.

''If you are not completely confused by quantum mechanics, you do not understand it''
/ John Wheeler /

What is there, exactly, to be confused about by so-called 'quantum mechanics'?

"Nobody understands quantum mechanics and that's a problem".
/Sean Carroll/

If absolutely no one understands 'quantum mechanics', then absolutely every one of the people you are listing here does not understand 'quantum mechanics', itself, "themselves".

''Quantum mechanics makes absolutely no sense''
/Roger Penrose/

So, why then do these people talk about 'quantum mechanics', as they know about it?

[Impenitent]

what is the benefit of making big bad particles collide?

https://physicsworld.com/a/what-have-pa ... ne-for-us/

we'll cure cancer and stop people from carrying bombs on airplanes... just a little more money...

right...

-Imp

[MagsJ]

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.¿Will a bigger particle collider make a difference in unlocking new information regarding existence? ..the scientific-world jury’s out, on that one.


“There are currently more than 30,000 accelerators in operation around the world. There are two basic classes of accelerators: electrostatic and electrodynamic (or electromagnetic) accelerators. Electrostatic particle accelerators use static electric fields to accelerate particles.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_accelerator

I never knew there were that many, until the other day..

[socrattus]

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.¿Will a bigger particle collider make a difference in unlocking new information regarding existence? ..the scientific-world jury’s out, on that one.


“There are currently more than 30,000 accelerators in operation around the world. There are two basic classes of accelerators: electrostatic and electrodynamic (or electromagnetic) accelerators. Electrostatic particle accelerators use static electric fields to accelerate particles.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_accelerator

I never knew there were that many, until the other day..

About accelerators
1) Book: "The God equation":
(This process of shooting beams of particles to smash protons apart is a clumsy,
imprecise operation. It has been compared to throwing a piano out of the window,
and then trying to determine all the piano's properties by analyzing the sound of the crash.
As clumsy as this process is, it is one of the only ways we have to probe the interior of the proton.)
/ page 89-90, by Michio Kaku/
2) Throw and smash an alarm clock on the wall, then try to combine the cogwheels,
springs and small screws to figure out how the clock works. Is this a reasonable way
to understand clock mechanics or the microstructure of nature?
3) CERN-LHC is a dead-end path to understand Nature.

[Age]

The so-called "quantum world" and the so-called "classical world" work differently.
Many physicists have commented on this difference;

How, exactly do they, supposedly, work differently?

Once this is explained, then I can show where the confusion is, and why the confusion previously existed.

[Cerveny]

CERN Wants to Build a Bigger, Badder Particle Collider
/By: John Perritano/
https://science.howstuffworks.com/cern- ... llider.htm
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Cern aims to build €20bn collider to unlock secrets of universe.
The first accelerator based on the principle of multiple acceleration was the cyclotron,
invented by Ernest Lawrence in 1930 (Nobel Prize 1939).
Since then, 1000 new particles have been discovered. Will new subatomic particles
close the gaps in our misunderstanding of the quantum world?

I think that if 1000 new types of particles didn't help us understand the "secrets of the universe", then 1500 won't either. Just like 500 new animals won't help us understand the "secrets of life"…

[socrattus]

CERN Wants to Build a Bigger, Badder Particle Collider
/By: John Perritano/
https://science.howstuffworks.com/cern- ... llider.htm
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Cern aims to build €20bn collider to unlock secrets of universe.
The first accelerator based on the principle of multiple acceleration was the cyclotron,
invented by Ernest Lawrence in 1930 (Nobel Prize 1939).
Since then, 1000 new particles have been discovered. Will new subatomic particles
close the gaps in our misunderstanding of the quantum world?

I think that if 1000 new types of particles didn't help us understand the "secrets of the universe", then 1500 won't either. Just like 500 new animals won't help us understand the "secrets of life"…

If new quantum particles don't help us understand the mysteries of quantum particles
(such as their duality), then what is the reason for the LHC hypermania?

[Flannel Jesus]

If new quantum particles don't help us understand the mysteries of quantum particles
(such as their duality), then what is the reason for the LHC hypermania?

Scientists just tryinig to cover for the fact that they never made it to the moon, obviously.

[Impenitent]

would the biggest, baddest particle collider be along the lines of planetary billiards?

black holes (pockets) strategically placed throughout the universe...

bounce Jupiter off Saturn into Cygnus X-1

(I know the distances involved seem astronomical, but compare it to the distances compared to a photon...)

-Imp

[socrattus]

If new quantum particles don't help us understand the mysteries of quantum particles
(such as their duality), then what is the reason for the LHC hypermania?

Scientists just tryinig to cover for the fact that they never made it to the moon, obviously.

The Uncertain Future of Particle Physics
Ten years in, the Large Hadron Collider has failed to deliver the exciting discoveries that scientists promised.
Jan. 23, 2019
/By Sabine Hossenfelder/
The Large Hadron Collider is the world’s largest particle accelerator.
It’s a 16-mile-long underground ring, located at CERN in Geneva, in which protons collide
at almost the speed of light. With a $5 billion price tag and a $1 billion annual operation cost,
the L.H.C. is the most expensive instrument ever built — and that’s even though it reuses
the tunnel of an earlier collider.

Last week, CERN unveiled plans to build an accelerator that is larger
and far more powerful than the L.H.C. — and would cost over $10 billion.

I used to be a particle physicist. For my Ph.D. thesis, I did L.H.C. predictions,
and while I have stopped working in the field, I still believe that slamming particles
into one another is the most promising route to understanding what matter is made of
and how it holds together. But $10 billion is a hefty price tag. And I’m not sure it’s worth it.

In 2012, experiments at the L.H.C. confirmed the discovery of the Higgs boson —
a prediction that dates back to the 1960s — and it remains the only discovery made at the L.H.C.
Particle physicists are quick to emphasize that they have learned other things:
For example,
they now have better knowledge about the structure of the proton, and they’ve seen new
(albeit unstable) composite particles. But let’s be honest: It’s disappointing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/opin ... lider.html
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1- "For example, they now have better knowledge about the structure of the proton, . . ."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/opin ... lider.html

A proton is made up of the Quark family. The quark family of particles consists of:
up, down, top, bottom, charm and strange particles + antiquarks + tetraquark + pentaquark + leptoquark (?) + . . .
2- Book, "Fundamentals": "The discovery of the Higgs particle was announced on July 4, 2012." . . .
" The lifetime of a Higgs particle is about 10^-22 seconds, or a tenth of trillionth of a billionth of a seconds."
/page 177, by Frank Wilczek/.
The Higgs boson is a spin-zero particle. Spinless particles are unstable and cannot be fundamental particles.