When Science becomes a FAITH.

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When Science becomes a FAITH.

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In the last 20 years, espacially in light of the discovery of Leptin (the satiation hormone), there is in progress a massive pardigm change in the understanding of nutrition, especailly with regard to diabetes, cholesterol, saturated fats, and obesity. This is being undertaken by "heretics", who have to stand against a monument of false ideas, and failed strategies, which are continuing to be applied by GPs who, having had only a couple hours tuition on the topic are endangering their patients with failing advice.
Medicine is massive, so much so that specialisation is part of the strategies, with this comes a lack of a "thicker understanding" and disciplinary blindness.
The bad advice was originally given by one rather charismatic person; Ancel Keys. The man that put the "K" in K-rations, has probably hurried the deaths of more people that Hitler since he spewed his low fat, high carb advice; causing premature Type 2 Diabetes, and Obesity, turning millions into sugar junkies as they have tried to errornsously avoid fat; and animal product. The tsunami of ultra processed food that followed his dietary guidlines from the 1980s has been a gentle genocide of illness.
This is a story about "FAITH". Faith is a dangerous and illogical failing of the human mind. The Religion of low fat has been a disaster.



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the claim that the future will be as the past has been is a leap of faith

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According to " CIRCLE DIMENSION THEORY" ,
Scinece is still " pure science" when it is merely refer to our classic limit time-space universe " 1 to 6 dimensions ",
once the concept is beyong 7 dimensions " unlimit time- space universe " , SCIENCE will automatically " CONVERT INTO FAITH " , just because
laws of physics " IS ONLY EFFICIENT WITHIN OUR CLASSIC LIMIT TIME-SPACE UNIVERSE 1 TO 6 DIMENSIONS"
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billssw wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:50 am According to " CIRCLE DIMENSION THEORY" ,
Scinece is still " pure science" when it is merely refer to our classic limit time-space universe " 1 to 6 dimensions ",
once the concept is beyong 7 dimensions " unlimit time- space universe " , SCIENCE will automatically " CONVERT INTO FAITH " , just because
laws of physics " IS ONLY EFFICIENT WITHIN OUR CLASSIC LIMIT TIME-SPACE UNIVERSE 1 TO 6 DIMENSIONS"

The 6 dimension explanation is as below ︰

6D:
(The extreme weight of this classic universe, M^2*C^4, is also derived from C^4 in the formula of Einstein's general theory of relativity, but the infinite weight of the parallel universe will break this weight, because the parallel universe has infinite dark matter and dark energy)
In the mainstream scientific community, general relativity and quantum mechanics are things that even string theory cosmologists don’t quite understand!
Compared with 5-dimensional dark energy, 6-dimensional dark matter represents the collective future. 6 dimensions is the highest dimension of this classical finite space-time universe. But remember, the 6-dimensional classical universe is "limited time and space" because it corresponds to limited dark matter and dark energy. What we will introduce next is 7 dimensions. The "infinite time and space" universe corresponds to infinite dark matter and dark energy.
So, can you be more specific? Yes, dark matter is "inside the black hole visual interface", it is "Hawking's pear-shaped time diagram itself", it is the "hollow" of the donut in the donut universe, and it is also Einstein's generalized gravitational field. It is not mentioned "Things that come out" are the "seven emotions, six desires and six worlds of mortals" caused by the colorful material world of all things in our human beings. This also echoes the saying that "character determines destiny, and materials cause character."
So far, the six dimensions of this classic universe have been discussed. Dimensions 1 to 3 are square individuals, "space-time objects in a narrow sense", and dimensions 4 to 6 are collective circular universes, "space-time objects in a broad sense."
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I think the original post can be written off... by philosophers.
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Because it's unintelligible.
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Impenitent wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:11 pm the claim that the future will be as the past has been is a leap of faith

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Sculptor wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:02 pm This is a story about "FAITH". Faith is a dangerous and illogical failing of the human mind. The Religion of low fat has been a disaster.[/b]
The reason for low fat is to be attractive. Attraction causes a lot of reproduction that would otherwise not happen. Governments encourage people to reproduce irresponsibly because it keeps the body pool stocked for wars and all the machine gun fodder needed for them. We're little more than drones for the powers that be to use us for their purposes. We're numbers on a statistical chart in an economics and political game.
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Gary Childress wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:35 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:02 pm This is a story about "FAITH". Faith is a dangerous and illogical failing of the human mind. The Religion of low fat has been a disaster.[/b]
The reason for low fat is to be attractive. Attraction causes a lot of reproduction that would otherwise not happen.
No. I do not think this is happening at all. People are less attractive, and the pop growth rate has not increased.
I do not think you read my opening post
Governments encourage people to reproduce irresponsibly because it keeps the body pool stocked for wars and all the machine gun fodder needed for them. We're little more than drones for the powers that be to use us for their purposes. We're numbers on a statistical chart in an economics and political game.
But people get fat on low fat diets more than high fat diets.

The myth is that eating less fat is a good idea. The myth began about 40-50 years ago, and people have complied more or less. We now have an massive epidemic is T2D and obesity. Processing food with the myth has led to natural fats being replaced by sugar HFCS, and seed oils.
People eat more because sugars make you more hungry. Manufacturers know this and design feeds to hit addictive spots. Fat people buy more food, get fatter...
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We all know that belief in a fad diet can be a matter of "faith" - but from there, how do we make the leap that "science becomes a faith?"

Science is evidence-based. "Faith" is a firm belief which is held in the absence of scientific evidence.
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alan1000 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:25 pm We all know that belief in a fad diet can be a matter of "faith" - but from there, how do we make the leap that "science becomes a faith?"

Science is evidence-based. "Faith" is a firm belief which is held in the absence of scientific evidence.
Isn’t there a belief that science is fact? Most everyone assumes it is.
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25 “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them.
Matthew 6:25

The Natural Food Industry is obsessed with what we eat, and, like Calvinists, see health as a byproduct of moral virtue. If we eat a healthy diet and exercise diligently, we will not only by healthy, but we will deserve to be healthy. But, to quote from the Bible again (there's much wisdom in that book, even for non-believers) "The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all."

There are three problems with the Natural Foods approach. First, it is natural to eat chocolate on a whim, and unnatural to eat tofu on a principle. So much for "natural eating". Second, equating health with a puritanical lifestyle promotes blaming the victim. We all know that some overweight smokers live to be 90, and some fit vegetarians die at 60 of cancer or heart disease. Third, fretting about what one is going to eat may be unhealthy. Worry, after all, caused more indigestion than processed food.

Of course a healthy lifestyle improves one's odds of good health. Nobody denies that. But obsessions equating a diligent program of diet and exercise with heallt will betray the practitioners in the end. They, like the rest of us, are doomed.
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