Laura Aboli - The Transhumanism Agenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-EMWpyugM
“If you already identify as a hybrid between a man and a woman you will be easily convinced to become a hybrid between human and machine.”
I know nothing about this woman, but her message is fundamentalist. Could be Christian, could be Islam. Could be Rationality.
The Transhumanism Agenda
Re: The Transhumanism Agenda
Well, considering the Fact of the way that 'the world' was like, back in the very day that this was being written, and who and what created 'that world', 'the post human world' did not come quick enough. Well not from my perspective anyway. But, at least 'we' are HERE-NOW.
Also, why, exactly, is the so-called 'most fundamental notion of human identity', that is; 'the most fundamental notion of a 'human being', or 'the most fundamental notion' of just 'being human', is supposedly 'gender', of all things?
The 'fundamental notion of identity' of and/or for any other animal is certainly not 'gender'. So, why is 'gender', supposedly, so important or is, supposedly, the 'fundamental notion of identity' to and/or for some of you adult human beings?
Also, why, exactly, is the so-called 'most fundamental notion of human identity', that is; 'the most fundamental notion of a 'human being', or 'the most fundamental notion' of just 'being human', is supposedly 'gender', of all things?
The 'fundamental notion of identity' of and/or for any other animal is certainly not 'gender'. So, why is 'gender', supposedly, so important or is, supposedly, the 'fundamental notion of identity' to and/or for some of you adult human beings?
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Re: The Transhumanism Agenda
Transhumanism is defined in so many ways.
But there is a segment that is selling transhumanism - humans being merged in various ways with technology - as enhancement, when it looks to me much more like ultimate surveillance and control.
This has been happening for a while with the technology physically external to the body - we are pretty thoroughly surveilled via social media/internet use, etc.
But I'm thinking of the next steps where the physical merging takes place.
This isn't to belittle some of the negative effects of the non-physically merging processes.
But there is a segment that is selling transhumanism - humans being merged in various ways with technology - as enhancement, when it looks to me much more like ultimate surveillance and control.
This has been happening for a while with the technology physically external to the body - we are pretty thoroughly surveilled via social media/internet use, etc.
But I'm thinking of the next steps where the physical merging takes place.
This isn't to belittle some of the negative effects of the non-physically merging processes.
Re: The Transhumanism Agenda
I think identity and mindfulness mirror the one thing going on in a human experience.Age wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:47 am Well, considering the Fact of the way that 'the world' was like, back in the very day that this was being written, and who and what created 'that world', 'the post human world' did not come quick enough. Well not from my perspective anyway. But, at least 'we' are HERE-NOW.
Also, why, exactly, is the so-called 'most fundamental notion of human identity', that is; 'the most fundamental notion of a 'human being', or 'the most fundamental notion' of just 'being human', is supposedly 'gender', of all things?
The 'fundamental notion of identity' of and/or for any other animal is certainly not 'gender'. So, why is 'gender', supposedly, so important or is, supposedly, the 'fundamental notion of identity' to and/or for some of you adult human beings?
The transhuman machinery is simply a possible way in which to "keep things going" re human mindfulness rather than finding an ultimate identity.
A "mind" can theoretically experience being anything - a planet or a star or a whole galaxy...but does this ultimately tell that mind "what" it "is"?
Or is the answer ultimately that "it doesn't really matter."?
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Okay, but what and/or which 'identity' are you referring to here, exactly?VVilliam wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:39 pmI think identity and mindfulness mirror the one thing going on in a human experience.Age wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:47 am Well, considering the Fact of the way that 'the world' was like, back in the very day that this was being written, and who and what created 'that world', 'the post human world' did not come quick enough. Well not from my perspective anyway. But, at least 'we' are HERE-NOW.
Also, why, exactly, is the so-called 'most fundamental notion of human identity', that is; 'the most fundamental notion of a 'human being', or 'the most fundamental notion' of just 'being human', is supposedly 'gender', of all things?
The 'fundamental notion of identity' of and/or for any other animal is certainly not 'gender'. So, why is 'gender', supposedly, so important or is, supposedly, the 'fundamental notion of identity' to and/or for some of you adult human beings?
The transhuman machinery[/quote]
But I never mentioned absolutely anything about so-called 'transhuman machinery', as can be clearly seen above here, nor even alluded to 'that'.
Okay.
One could say that when the ultimate is found, and known, then what 'it' is, exactly, is or has, 'now', been told.
Of course, that would all depend on what the 'it' word here is referring to, exactly, and to who and/or what this question is being asked to, exactly, correct?
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I think identity and mindfulness mirror the one thing going on in a human experience.
That is the point of having the word "mirror" included with the word "mindfulness" I leave it up to the individual to makes sense of the image of mindfulness re reflectiveness.
If your question is more personal asking me how I identify mindfulness (as my "self") as in "what do I see therein?" it is not a question I think needs answer from me to anyone asking.
So what? The thread topic allows for my mentioning it, okay?I never mentioned absolutely anything about so-called 'transhuman machinery'
Great!Okay.
A "mind" can theoretically experience being anything - a planet or a star or a whole galaxy...but does this ultimately tell that mind "what" it "is"?
One can say a lot of things. How is your comment related to my own?One could say that when the ultimate is found, and known, then what 'it' is, exactly, is or has, 'now', been told.
Or is the answer ultimately that "it doesn't really matter."?
The "it" in this case has to do with the idea that a "mind" can theoretically experience being anything - a planet or a star or a whole galaxy" and the question is asking whether mindfulness matters and if so does it also matter that mindfulness understands itself, as an object whatever (it the object) happens to be.Of course, that would all depend on what the 'it' word here is referring to, exactly, and to who and/or what this question is being asked to, exactly, correct?
Is the object the best "mirror" to reflect off of in order to gain identity, or does gaining identity (identifying with the object) really "matter" or "answer the question"?
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Okay. But my question was not like that.VVilliam wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:33 pmI think identity and mindfulness mirror the one thing going on in a human experience.That is the point of having the word "mirror" included with the word "mindfulness" I leave it up to the individual to makes sense of the image of mindfulness re reflectiveness.
If your question is more personal asking me how I identify mindfulness (as my "self") as in "what do I see therein?" it is not a question I think needs answer from me to anyone asking.
I was not aware before that the 'thread topic' had control over what you could or could not mention here.
Anyway, even if you are 'allowed to mention some supposed thing like some so-called 'transhuman machinery', since you 'mentioned' that thing in reply to what I said and wrote here, I was just 'mentioning' that I had never 'mentioned' any such thing, ever before.
So, that is so what.
When some thing is known, for sure, then what is known is, literally, 'telling', and 'telling' what 'it' is, and/or has been, exactly.VVilliam wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:33 pmGreat!Okay.
A "mind" can theoretically experience being anything - a planet or a star or a whole galaxy...but does this ultimately tell that mind "what" it "is"?One can say a lot of things. How is your comment related to my own?One could say that when the ultimate is found, and known, then what 'it' is, exactly, is or has, 'now', been told.
that is how my comment here is related to your comment here.
'Matters' in relation to 'what', exactly?VVilliam wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:33 pmOr is the answer ultimately that "it doesn't really matter."?The "it" in this case has to do with the idea that a "mind" can theoretically experience being anything - a planet or a star or a whole galaxy" and the question is asking whether mindfulness mattersOf course, that would all depend on what the 'it' word here is referring to, exactly, and to who and/or what this question is being asked to, exactly, correct?
Well when, and if, 'you' also ever come to know and understand thy 'Self', exactly, as well, then 'you' will also know whether it matters if the Mind, Itself, understands Itself, or not.
By the way the Mind, Itself, is not 'an object' as most of you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, perceive 'an object' to be.
Why are you presuming or believing that 'object' matters or is even involved here?
It would be an impossibility to reflect off of 'an object' to 'mirror' ' a Self' if and when that 'Self' is not even 'an object'. But, in the case of identifying 'thee Mind Itself', or in other words coming to know 'thySelf', exactly, objects, identified as other things, could be used in one or another way to help in this identifying process.
How to actually answer 'the question' becomes blatantly obvious only 'after the Fact, as some might say here.
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We agree.Age wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:37 amOkay. But my question was not like that.VVilliam wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:33 pmI think identity and mindfulness mirror the one thing going on in a human experience.That is the point of having the word "mirror" included with the word "mindfulness" I leave it up to the individual to makes sense of the image of mindfulness re reflectiveness.
If your question is more personal asking me how I identify mindfulness (as my "self") as in "what do I see therein?" it is not a question I think needs answer from me to anyone asking.I was not aware before that the 'thread topic' had control over what you could or could not mention here.
Anyway, even if you are 'allowed to mention some supposed thing like some so-called 'transhuman machinery', since you 'mentioned' that thing in reply to what I said and wrote here, I was just 'mentioning' that I had never 'mentioned' any such thing, ever before.
So, that is so what.When some thing is known, for sure, then what is known is, literally, 'telling', and 'telling' what 'it' is, and/or has been, exactly.VVilliam wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:33 pmGreat!Okay.
A "mind" can theoretically experience being anything - a planet or a star or a whole galaxy...but does this ultimately tell that mind "what" it "is"?One can say a lot of things. How is your comment related to my own?One could say that when the ultimate is found, and known, then what 'it' is, exactly, is or has, 'now', been told.
that is how my comment here is related to your comment here.'Matters' in relation to 'what', exactly?VVilliam wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:33 pmOr is the answer ultimately that "it doesn't really matter."?The "it" in this case has to do with the idea that a "mind" can theoretically experience being anything - a planet or a star or a whole galaxy" and the question is asking whether mindfulness mattersOf course, that would all depend on what the 'it' word here is referring to, exactly, and to who and/or what this question is being asked to, exactly, correct?Well when, and if, 'you' also ever come to know and understand thy 'Self', exactly, as well, then 'you' will also know whether it matters if the Mind, Itself, understands Itself, or not.
By the way the Mind, Itself, is not 'an object' as most of you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, perceive 'an object' to be.Why are you presuming or believing that 'object' matters or is even involved here?
It would be an impossibility to reflect off of 'an object' to 'mirror' ' a Self' if and when that 'Self' is not even 'an object'. But, in the case of identifying 'thee Mind Itself', or in other words coming to know 'thySelf', exactly, objects, identified as other things, could be used in one or another way to help in this identifying process.
How to actually answer 'the question' becomes blatantly obvious only 'after the Fact, as some might say here.
Re: The Transhumanism Agenda
OkayVVilliam wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:05 amWe agree.Age wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:37 amOkay. But my question was not like that.VVilliam wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:33 pm
That is the point of having the word "mirror" included with the word "mindfulness" I leave it up to the individual to makes sense of the image of mindfulness re reflectiveness.
If your question is more personal asking me how I identify mindfulness (as my "self") as in "what do I see therein?" it is not a question I think needs answer from me to anyone asking.I was not aware before that the 'thread topic' had control over what you could or could not mention here.
Anyway, even if you are 'allowed to mention some supposed thing like some so-called 'transhuman machinery', since you 'mentioned' that thing in reply to what I said and wrote here, I was just 'mentioning' that I had never 'mentioned' any such thing, ever before.
So, that is so what.When some thing is known, for sure, then what is known is, literally, 'telling', and 'telling' what 'it' is, and/or has been, exactly.
that is how my comment here is related to your comment here.'Matters' in relation to 'what', exactly?Well when, and if, 'you' also ever come to know and understand thy 'Self', exactly, as well, then 'you' will also know whether it matters if the Mind, Itself, understands Itself, or not.
By the way the Mind, Itself, is not 'an object' as most of you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, perceive 'an object' to be.Why are you presuming or believing that 'object' matters or is even involved here?
It would be an impossibility to reflect off of 'an object' to 'mirror' ' a Self' if and when that 'Self' is not even 'an object'. But, in the case of identifying 'thee Mind Itself', or in other words coming to know 'thySelf', exactly, objects, identified as other things, could be used in one or another way to help in this identifying process.
How to actually answer 'the question' becomes blatantly obvious only 'after the Fact, as some might say here.