WHY do 'you' SAY 'this' "dontaskme"?
Do 'you' ALREADY KNOW, FOR SURE, and thus IRREFUTABLY, what the ACTUAL Truth IS, EXACTLY?
WHY do 'you' SAY 'this' "dontaskme"?
There’s no “me”being or “me”doing so.Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:56 pmThat's a moot point...so I presume this is a concession from your previous statement.
And if I did pass out and automatically start breathing, how would that not "be me" doing so? Why am "I" disassociated from my breathing? Why are you? Why do you ignore the effort required for your life "To Be"? What does that effort represent, except that perhaps, you inadvertently admit to sources of energy and mechanisms which your life are Owed, rather than that you Own?
- Yes, the connection of mind and body is interesting when it comes to effort. The body can exert while the mind is at peace, without effort, and when that happens the body can do more effort than an efforting mind could allow. Bit of a paradox, unless one considers that efforting is caused by uncertainty, and dare we say ... choice?Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:21 amI disagree. Being *IS* an effort, even when you become accustomed and habituated to it. The problem is ignorance. You are ignoring the energy and effort required for your upkeep. You aren't self-conscious of it, very much. That doesn't make it disappear. It only means that effort in addition to the upkeep, are what you consider "real effort". That's effort, on top of effort.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:43 amContinuing to BE does not require effort. Being is purely automatic and spontaneous. A thirst comes, water is sought and drank, a hunger comes and food is sought and eaten, this is an automatic continuance of an alive being. Just as the heart continues to beat and the lungs continue to inhale and exhale air effortlessly. Hunger continues to come, thirst continues to come, wee and poo continue to be expelled from the body, no effort required.
When food is sought and eaten, hunger subsides, all of which is happening effortlessly. No person ever tells themself, gee, it's such an effort to obey my hunger pangs, or my thirst, most people usually rush to the nearest available tasty snack or drink instantly.
The continuance of BEING is not an effort. What would be an effort, and will most inevitably take a great deal of effort in fact, would be to intentionally resist seeking food to eat to eliminate effortless arising hunger pangs in the body, continuing to resist and ignore the hunger and just watching and waiting for their body to die from starvation, yes, that would take an enormous amount of effort to deliberately resist the bodies will to stay alive......And is not what is being discussed here.
It's about what a person is conscious/self-aware of.
Age, to me this is quite funny, funny in the sense of exaggerated platitudes, exaggerated by the CAPS.
Okay.Walker wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:45 pmAge, to me this is quite funny, funny in the sense of exaggerated platitudes, exaggerated by the CAPS.
If you didn't intend funny, I'd say you're a naturally funny ... guy, and I think the probability of that correlating with reality is rather high if a statistically solid sampling would be commissioned.
1. I had, and STILL HAVE, NO QUESTIONS.
Yes I agree, it's great, not only great, but super great, is this nihilistic reality. The absolute raw unfiltered truth behind all the apparent pretence.