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Walker
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Alexiev wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:49 pm... his attempt to overturn the election ...
That's not what they call it every time a Democrat challenges election results, which is often.

He had just cause to challenge the election, whereas the Democrats do it as a matter of course. There were many anomolies that gave Trump just cause to challenge the results in specific states.
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Walker wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:49 pm Clearly Trump knows how to deal with autocrats, to the advantage of the United States.

He knows how to bully them.
He knows how to flatter them.
He knows how to threaten them.
He knows the language that will make them listen.

That's why, despite all the illegal crap distractions created by The Left, his adminstration was a time of peace and prosperity.
The "Left" did not invade the Capitol after Trump lost the election. Indeed, the judicial system is supposed to be non-partisan (see the three parts of government). Of course it does not always succeed in this goal. Trump does not appear to have effectively "bullied", "threatened" or "flattered" Putin or Kim Jong-Un, or Xi Jinping. His boasts about his skills as a negotiator have been exposed as ridiculous. He's a blow hard. All he ever wanted to be was a TV star, and he discovered that running for President (and actually winning!?) is the best way to accomplish that.

I'll grant that Trump wasn't a horrible President -- until the Insurrection and his deplorable Supreme Court appointments. That's because he never did anything (an admirable approach for any president). Unfortunately, he also emboldened wacky right wingers (are the Proud Boys right wingers, or, as the name implies, gay rights activists?) and harmed the nation on the bully pulpit.

The current administration also presides over peace and prosperity (the extent to which any President influences prosperity is debatable). Amazingly, the Republicans try to claim otherwise, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
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Alexiev wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:24 pm The "Left" did not invade the Capitol after Trump lost the election. Indeed, the judicial system is supposed to be non-partisan (see the three parts of government). Of course it does not always succeed in this goal. Trump does not appear to have effectively "bullied", "threatened" or "flattered" Putin or Kim Jong-Un, or Xi Jinping. His boasts about his skills as a negotiator have been exposed as ridiculous. He's a blow hard. All he ever wanted to be was a TV star, and he discovered that running for President (and actually winning!?) is the best way to accomplish that.
There's quite a bit of evidence, evidence other than the conclusions of a kangaroo court, that the violence was orchestrated by and made possible by The Left, for instance because of the purposeful lack of predictably-needed security which Trump tried to provide days before the event.

The proof of Trump's effectiveness is the happy times of peace and prosperity, in spite of the Left rioting in the streets in 2020 as orchestrated by the Left to create chaos as the election neared.

Everything after and including "blowhard" in the above quote is evidence that personality, or style, is indeed an admitted issue sparking episodes of TDS, although self-admission that it is indeed the primary cause of TDS would require a greater self-awareness.

The proof of Biden's ineffectiveness for the welfare of the country is in the mess of pudding that he's leaving behind for the next guy or gal, current inflation, hair-brained ideology, not to mention the unknown services rendered to foreign entities in return for the tens of millions grifted by his crime family ... although that would explain the reasons for crippling energy production and open borders that are crippling the institutions of society.
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I heard that Trump likes to play this artful song at his political events.
The artfulness of Trump trolling is not to the liking of The Left.
That's a style of management surely to trigger TDS.
This is because The Left hollers Non-Partisan!, and Unity! ... but only when they lose an election.

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A calculated, posed smile makes anyone a politician, some more than others make smiling an art.
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Alexiev
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Re: Art and Politics

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Walker wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:36 am
Alexiev wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:24 pm The "Left" did not invade the Capitol after Trump lost the election. Indeed, the judicial system is supposed to be non-partisan (see the three parts of government). Of course it does not always succeed in this goal. Trump does not appear to have effectively "bullied", "threatened" or "flattered" Putin or Kim Jong-Un, or Xi Jinping. His boasts about his skills as a negotiator have been exposed as ridiculous. He's a blow hard. All he ever wanted to be was a TV star, and he discovered that running for President (and actually winning!?) is the best way to accomplish that.
There's quite a bit of evidence, evidence other than the conclusions of a kangaroo court, that the violence was orchestrated by and made possible by The Left, for instance because of the purposeful lack of predictably-needed security which Trump tried to provide days before the event.

The proof of Trump's effectiveness is the happy times of peace and prosperity, in spite of the Left rioting in the streets in 2020 as orchestrated by the Left to create chaos as the election neared.

Everything after and including "blowhard" in the above quote is evidence that personality, or style, is indeed an admitted issue sparking episodes of TDS, although self-admission that it is indeed the primary cause of TDS would require a greater self-awareness.

The proof of Biden's ineffectiveness for the welfare of the country is in the mess of pudding that he's leaving behind for the next guy or gal, current inflation, hair-brained ideology, not to mention the unknown services rendered to foreign entities in return for the tens of millions grifted by his crime family ... although that would explain the reasons for crippling energy production and open borders that are crippling the institutions of society.
If you decry actual evidence as that of a kangaroo court, you are beyond my help. You are clearly so partisan that you will accept only those facts which conform to your prejudices.

P.s. Who cares if Biden''s son is a sleaze? Those who do are grasping at straws. I'll grant that both Biden and Trump are too old to be running for President. Trump in particular should just find a comfortable chair at McDonalds, and eat himself to death (if he can afford it after paying his New York fines. Oh, I forgot. He never pays his bills. Perhaps he doesn't believe in property rights.)
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Alexiev wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:03 pm
If you decry actual evidence as that of a kangaroo court, you are beyond my help. You are clearly so partisan that you will accept only those facts which conform to your prejudices.
The kangaroo court destroyed a lot of the "actual" evidence. They said that their conclusions suffice as evidence. Their conclusions are not actual evidence.

Thus, your statement about another being beyond help, your statement about partisan and prejudice, are based on your careful omission of the word "conclusion," as a qualifier that describes the evidence, which is due to either ignorance, negligence, or purposeful misrepresentation.

You are clearly attempting to bend reality to fit a narrative, so I suspect the last.

Likewise, in the long run you would benefit more from admitting that your every criticism of Trump is a bending of fact to fit a narrative. You would benefit from dropping the ways of purposeful misrepresentation that leads to false judgments.
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Alexiev wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:03 pm P.s. Who cares if Biden''s son is a sleaze?
Answer: Biden.

That caring makes him vulnerable to blackmail by foreign powers ... foreign powers being the source of income for the Crime Family Business.
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I've done little research on Biden's crimes, or Trump's supposed disgusting dalliance with Russian prostitutes. To harp on the one and ignore the other is mere silliness. I don't need to look at the cases carefully. Trump is the most famous person in the history of America. He's in every newspaper, magazine and TV news show every day. Anyone can see him for what he is -- an attention seeking egotist who desires to create an autocratic cult of personality. He's dangerous to fundamental American values, like democracy. I grant that democracy is imperfect; voters (as the 2016 election proved, and as Hitler's election proved) often vote against their own interests. Nonetheless, democracy is the American way, and America is my beloved country.
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