Lost in the flood of beliefs

[Lacewing]

I was watching a show on TV tonight about the supposed Giants of Puma Punku, and the story goes that they were created from the dirt by a god, but then they angered the god, so the god sent a great flood to destroy them. How many times has such a story been used as a framework for beliefs, I wondered? Here's a list...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

Do we human beings just not raise our awareness long enough to recognize how much of our beliefs are built on endlessly recycled stories? The intent of many such stories being religious lures for the fearful. How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

[Harbal]

How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

A lot of us have moved on, but we must be patient while the Imannuel Cans of this world catch up with us.

[attofishpi]

How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

A lot of us have moved on, but we must be patient while the Imannuel Cans of this world catch up with us.

The Imannuel Cans of this world are ahead on being correct about one thing, God does exist.

[Harbal]

How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

A lot of us have moved on, but we must be patient while the Imannuel Cans of this world catch up with us.

The Imannuel Cans of this world are ahead on being correct about one thing, God does exist.

Of course he does, Fishy, of course he does.

[Dontaskme]

“ Religion began when the first conman met the first fool” Mark Twain

[Lacewing]

“ Religion began when the first conman met the first fool” Mark Twain

I wonder what Mark Twain would have to say about Trump?

Where have such brilliant men gone? We now seem mired in a world of megalomaniacs.

[Lacewing]

The Imannuel Cans of this world are ahead on being correct about one thing, God does exist.

Of course he does, Fishy, of course he does.

And they're both such stellar examples of what that's all about.

[Impenitent]

many "religions" around the world have a flood story...

https://science.howstuffworks.com/natur ... -flood.htm

a current religion predicts another flood with drowning polar bears and everything...

-Imp

[promethean75]

The thing with the global warming is this. Even if there is no manmade global warming, we should be making a concerted effort to reduce carbon emissions and pollution and all that anyway.

Oh wait I forgot. The world has to wait until a few venture capitalist fuck-sticks decide to invest in clean energy tech. Also, if anybody is really concerned with the environment, they're an evil Communist.

[Alexiev]

I was watching a show on TV tonight about the supposed Giants of Puma Punku, and the story goes that they were created from the dirt by a god, but then they angered the god, so the god sent a great flood to destroy them. How many times has such a story been used as a framework for beliefs, I wondered? Here's a list...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

Do we human beings just not raise our awareness long enough to recognize how much of our beliefs are built on endlessly recycled stories? The intent of many such stories being religious lures for the fearful. How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

I don't get it. If stories are repeated, doesn't that make them more credible? Of course our beliefs are built on standard stories. How many times have we Americans heard about Paul Revere, or the Alamo? If the stories are repeated, why should that make them less credible?

I'm not suggesting that all myths or oft-told legends are true, just that the fact that, for example, stories of dying and rising gods are common makes those stories less credible. It should be the other way around. If 100 people say they saw a sasquatch, the sasquatch sighting is more believable than If one person makes the claim. If Gods die and rise again, isn't it likely there will be stories about it?

[attofishpi]

The Imannuel Cans of this world are ahead on being correct about one thing, God does exist.

Of course he does, Fishy, of course he does.

And they're both such stellar examples of what that's all about.

Eh? I have only one thing in common with IC - belief in the life of Christ. Sage/God informed me that Christ did what is purported in the Bible, so Y should I do_u_bt that?

God is akin to A.I. as if we are in a matrix with God as the Operating System, ever present. I'm open to such considerations based on my experiences of "IT" whereas IC believes everything in the buy_bull.

ps. I rarely call God "He" unlike Harbal

[LuckyR]

How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

A lot of us have moved on, but we must be patient while the Imannuel Cans of this world catch up with us.

Exactly. Even theism (in this, near the end of the Age of humanism) isn't the same as theism in it's own Age. What's really going to be interesting is how theism and more importantly humanism will change in the upcoming post humanism Age.

[Age]

I was watching a show on TV tonight about the supposed Giants of Puma Punku, and the story goes that they were created from the dirt by a god, but then they angered the god, so the god sent a great flood to destroy them. How many times has such a story been used as a framework for beliefs, I wondered? Here's a list...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

Do we human beings just not raise our awareness long enough to recognize how much of our beliefs are built on endlessly recycled stories?

'you', human beings, BACK in those days when this is being written, have NOT YET raised 'your' AWARENESS, for ANY length, to RECOGNIZE what, EXACTLY, 'your' BELIEFS, and STORIES, were BUILT UPON, EXACTLY?

OBVIOUSLY a LOT of 'your' 'moral' STORIES, EXPRESSED, as can be exampled BY the MANY ones written FOR, and conveyed TO, 'children' WITH and THROUGH 'metaphors'.

Now, considering the Fact that 'you', human beings, are, literally, and figuratively, ARE just 'children in Life' a LOT OF WORDS USED in 'scriptures' or 'religiously taught' 'moral' STORIES ARE/WERE written WITH a LOT of 'metaphorical' WORDS, like, for example, the words 'flood', 'great flood', 'dirt', 'fires', 'destroy', 'kill', and many, many other words. BUT, ONCE ALL of 'this One and ONLY Life' and 'you', human beings, collectively 'GROW UP' and 'MATURE', MORE, in and through 'evolution', itself, and COME-TO ALSO KNOW how the Mind and the brain' ACTUALLY WORK and KNOW 'thy True Self', then WHY ALL OF those METAPHORICAL WORDS WERE USED BECOMES CRYSTAL CLEAR.

To CLEAR UP the CONFUSION and DISTORTIONS, which OBVIOUSLY ALL of 'you', adult human beings, HAD, in the days when this is being written, COMES WITH 'brain-washing' itself.

SEE, a LOT of the words USED BY 'you', human beings, IN the days when this is being written were CAUSED and CREATED, by the brain, WITH the BELIEF-system, WITH the INTENTION of CAUSING and CREATING a sense of feeling LOST, CONFUSED, and/or BEWILDERED. BUT, this is what the METAPHORICAL WORD the 'devil' is REFERRING TO, EXACTLY, and WHY 'it' WAS CREATED.

ALL of the DECEPTION, LYING, and FOOLING COMES FROM the 'brain', itself, which has been DIRTIED, by False, Wrong, Inaccurate, AND Incorrect 'teachings'. And, a GREAT DEAL OF 'the False' 'teachings' CAME FROM the 'ones' DOING the MOST 'moralistic teachings', that is; 'religion', itself.

SEE, the BIGGEST and BEST DECEIVERS are the ones who most STRONGLY BELIEVE, and WHERE BELIEF is HELD IS WITHIN 'the brain', which, 'paradoxically', is the very 'thing' that NEEDS a GOOD CLEANSING, or WASHING.

But, AGAIN, 'we' are ONLY AT the 'very tip' of the what could be called 'iceberg' here. AND STILL SOME WAY OFF FROM where MOST of 'you', people, in the days when this is being written, are Truly READY TO UNCOVER, LEARN, and DISCOVER. But, ONCE MORE, for those who are Truly INTERESTED, then ALL can be and WILL BE REVEALED, and SHOWN IRREFUTABLY True.

The intent of many such stories being religious lures for the fearful.

But ONLY WHEN and IF 'stories' are TAUGHT 'that way'.

Now, WHY do 'you', adult human beings, here think or wonder why so MANY 'older children' and/or 'younger adults' LIKE or LOVE 'scary stories/movies'?

The ANSWER IS BECAUSE of the ' closeness to "others" nearby' is FELT and EXPERIENCED, which like most 'things' began at or in 'early childhood'.

A VERY COMMON 'practice' among 'generations' going back many millennia* was to 'tell scary or fearful stories' to 'younger children', so that 'they' would not 'wander off'. The NEED to keep EVERY one, in 'the group', was VERY IMPORTANT. Especially for the human animal because of just how Truly WEAK 'it' was/is, in physical terms, in relation to just about all other animals.

These scary and fearful stories, especially about "others", kept 'you', human beings, and especially younger children close, and literally in what are called 'closely knit groups', can still be seen, in the days when this is being written, by the way 'you', adult human beings, still tell 'stories' about 'stranger danger', and by whatever other names 'you' call the, supposed, 'unknown and dangerous one/s', which, supposedly, live, in 'that culture' that 'you' live in and were brought up in.

*HOW I KNOW 'this' WILL BE REVEALED, eventually, but first 'things' FIRST.

How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

WHEN 'you', as an adult human being, BECOME Truly Honest and OPEN, AGAIN. That is for how MANY 'repetitions'.

What can be CLEARLY SEEN and OBSERVED here is that 'this one', admittedly, VERY BRILLIANTLY, CAME TO a VERY GOOD REALIZATION. However, because of 'its' OWN 'past experiences' this BRILLIANT REALIZATION becomes COMPLETELY LOST WITHIN and FROM the DISTORTIONS, from 'the past'.

Also, BECAUSE the so-called 'ego' of 'this one' WANTING TO EXPRESS, and BE RECOGNIZED FOR, 'its' NEWLY FOUNDED 'REALIZATION', completely DESTROYED ANY GOOD that could have COME from 'this realization'.

It is ALWAYS 'wonderment', itself, or what is just called 'CURIOSITY', which has LED 'you', human beings, to be CONTINUALLY LEARNING and REALIZING MORE, and ANEW. But as can be CLEARLY SEEN and OBSERVED here, 'past experiences' can and DOES get IN THE WAY, and thus DISTORTS and TWISTS
ALL of what CAN BE Truly LEARNED, UNDERSTOOD, and REASONED.

[Age]

How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

A lot of us have moved on, but we must be patient while the Imannuel Cans of this world catch up with us.

The Imannuel Cans of this world are ahead on being correct about one thing, God does exist.

BUT CLAIMING some 'thing', which may well be, (and IS), ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True is ABSOLUTELY USELESS WHEN CLAIMING 'it' to a 'group of people', or 'a person', who is 'skeptical', and especially when one has NO ACTUAL PROOF, NOR SOUND and VALID ARGUMENT, for SAID CLAIM.

However, WHEN EITHER of 'these two' are BROUGHT-TO-LIGHT, then 'those one' can NOT REFUTE 'the CLAIM'.

That, God EXISTS, is NOT A CLAIM that could be REFUTED.

Finding 'those' who have been PREPARED for 'this IRREFUTABLE KNOWLEDGE and Truth' is just A WAITING process. And, there is CERTAINLY NO RUSH here AT ALL.

By the way, the ACTUAL BEAUTY of this forum here is that if NOT EVERY, frequent, poster here, just about EVERY frequent poster here HAS their OWN personal INNER-BELIEF, DESIRE, or DRIVER, which WHEN LOOKED AT and STUDIED, is what IS HELPING TO BRING-TO-LIGHT the ABSOLUTE and IRREFUTABLE Truth, which WILL BE, (and WAS), SHOWN, REVEALED, and SEEN, SOON ENOUGH.

[attofishpi]

Just breath deep, inhale-exhale..inhale-exhale..

Chill the fuck out Age before you create another dimensional spacetime vortex and blow someone's flux capacitor. You only barely recovered last time that happened...too bad for those other forum posters. God bless them, may they rest in peace.