Why Hamas No Moral Compass?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

''Anti-semitism is enjoying a revival the likes of which I could never have fathomed.

We just witnessed the worst event in Jewish history since the Holocaust, and the response from left, right and center in less than 24 hours was “well, they deserved it” and “let’s not get emotional or pick a side here” in the same breath as whispers about a Zionist deep state.

This doesn’t bode well for humanity.

That sinking, “oh my God I want to throw up” feeling I’ve had all week isn’t going away. It’s goten worse.''

The root cause is the Jews are too inclusive with arrogance resulting from tribalism, their traditions and religions.
Since the Jews are distancing themselves from others, others are also distancing themselves from the Jews with some sense of detestation.

However, what is unfortunate from the above the detestations is enshrined in the holy texts of a certain religion and thus believers are contractually bound to detest the Jews whether they like it or not, else they may to hell if they befriend the Jews.
This detestation is embedded in the prayers that believers pray five time a day [1:6-7] plus many other verses of like the following;

• [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

There is no such entity called 'the Jews'. That's conspiracyturd bullshit. Most Jewish people aren't even remotely religious and they just get on with their lives like anyone else. What's wrong with identifying with your cultural background anyway? Everyone does it. It's just a human thing to do.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Well if it comes down to a refugee situation then I would rather have 5 million Israelis than 5 thousand 'Palestinians'. England and the US can have the 'Palestinians'. The wonkers will be thrilled.

[Veritas Aequitas]

''Anti-semitism is enjoying a revival the likes of which I could never have fathomed.

We just witnessed the worst event in Jewish history since the Holocaust, and the response from left, right and center in less than 24 hours was “well, they deserved it” and “let’s not get emotional or pick a side here” in the same breath as whispers about a Zionist deep state.

This doesn’t bode well for humanity.

That sinking, “oh my God I want to throw up” feeling I’ve had all week isn’t going away. It’s goten worse.''

The root cause is the Jews are too inclusive with arrogance resulting from tribalism, their traditions and religions.
Since the Jews are distancing themselves from others, others are also distancing themselves from the Jews with some sense of detestation.

However, what is unfortunate from the above the detestations is enshrined in the holy texts of a certain religion and thus believers are contractually bound to detest the Jews whether they like it or not, else they may to hell if they befriend the Jews.
This detestation is embedded in the prayers that believers pray five time a day [1:6-7] plus many other verses of like the following;

• [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

There is no such entity called 'the Jews'. That's conspiracyturd bullshit. Most Jewish people aren't even remotely religious and they just get on with their lives like anyone else. What's wrong with identifying with your cultural background anyway? Everyone does it. It's just a human thing to do.

A typical dictionary meaning;

Jew: a member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins through the ancient Hebrew people of Israel to Abraham.

Right? Wrong?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

The root cause is the Jews are too inclusive with arrogance resulting from tribalism, their traditions and religions.
Since the Jews are distancing themselves from others, others are also distancing themselves from the Jews with some sense of detestation.

However, what is unfortunate from the above the detestations is enshrined in the holy texts of a certain religion and thus believers are contractually bound to detest the Jews whether they like it or not, else they may to hell if they befriend the Jews.
This detestation is embedded in the prayers that believers pray five time a day [1:6-7] plus many other verses of like the following;

• [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

There is no such entity called 'the Jews'. That's conspiracyturd bullshit. Most Jewish people aren't even remotely religious and they just get on with their lives like anyone else. What's wrong with identifying with your cultural background anyway? Everyone does it. It's just a human thing to do.

A typical dictionary meaning;

Jew: a member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins through the ancient Hebrew people of Israel to Abraham.

Right? Wrong?

And I suppose they 'control all the banks' too

[Averroes]

Why and How Hamas has No Moral Compass?

Reporter Stands by Story of Hamas Massacring Babies, Reveals Another Horror

In this case, Hamas deliberately and intentional massacre babies without qualms when they saw them;
the usual what-about Israel doing the same is never comparable, because babies and children are killed as a side-effect [collaterally] and never deliberately.

That report was made by an Israeli reporter from an Israeli media, and it was later found to be fake news:

But subsequent reports revealed that no such beheadings have been verified by any Israeli or international source
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023 ... palestine

I have always make reservations that whatever News I read or heard, they could possibly be fake News.

In the above article, the reporter informed she saw the 'dead babies' with her own eyes, there is some credibility as compared if she merely relied on hearsays from others.

This latest news?

JERUSALEM/TEL AVIV/BRUSSELS, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Israel's government showed U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and NATO defence ministers graphic images of dead children and civilians on Thursday, saying they were killed by Palestinian group Hamas as it builds support for its response.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office also released on social media a picture of a dead infant in a pool of blood and the charred body of a child, part of an apparent effort to stoke global anger against the Gaza militants over Saturday's attack.
https://www.reuters.com/world/nato-mini ... 023-10-12/

This is fake news?
Possibly but not likely since Reuters has reasonably credibility.

Reuters, the media you quoted and you find reasonably credible, confirmed it was fake news in that same article you referenced:

There were no images to suggest militants had beheaded babies -- a particularly explosive accusation that first emerged in Israel's media and initially confirmed by Israeli officials.

U.S. President Joseph Biden had suggested on Wednesday that he had seen images of children beheaded by militants. The White House later clarified that U.S. officials had not seen any evidence of this.

Netanyahu has not repeated a claim by his office earlier this week that Hamas had indeed cut off the heads of children, nor did Gallant repeat that accusation to NATO ministers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/nato-mini ... 023-10-12/

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Contrary to Judaism and Christianity, in Islam it is not allowed to kill babies, women, children and old people in combat. In a narration of Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), it is reported the following saying:

• “Go in Allah's name, trusting in Allah, and adhering to the religion of the Messenger of Allah. Do not kill a decrepit old man, or a young infant, or a child, or a woman; do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well.”(Abu Dawud, Jihad, 90; Naylu’l-Awtar,7/246)

The Hadiths are not part of the contractual terms ALL Muslims had entered into a contract [covenant] with Allah.
Thus whatever are in the Hadiths are merely guides and not obligatory.

Authentic Hadith(narrations) of Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) are to be followed in Islam because Allah, the Almighty says in the Holy Quran in Surah 4, ayat/verse 59:

يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ أَطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا۟ ٱلرَّسُولَ وَأُو۟لِى ٱلْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَـٰزَعْتُمْ فِى شَىْءٍۢ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَٱلرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْـَٔاخِرِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌۭ وَأَحْسَنُ

O you who have believed, obey Allāh and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allāh and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allāh and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.
[Saheeh International translation, 4:59]

And in Surah 59 verse 7, Allah, the All-Knowing says:

وَمَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمُ ٱلرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَىٰكُمْ عَنْهُ فَٱنتَهُوا۟ ۚ وَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ ۖ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ شَدِيدُ ٱلْعِقَابِ
Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it. And whatever he forbids you from, leave it. And fear Allah. Surely Allah is severe in punishment.

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All Christians signed a contract with Jesus and God [John 3:16] where the terms of the contract are only in the Gospels. The overriding moral maxim of the Gospels is 'love all, even enemies' as such it imply no humans ought to be killed else one would have sinned.
Whatever are in the OT, Acts and Epistles are merely appendixes and guides to the contract thus not obligatory.

Did you know that according to the Christian Bible it is written that when biblical Jesus returns, he will subdue and kill those who do not believe in him? The following are some example passages of the New Testament of the Christian Bible, but there are more bearing the same message:

• But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”[Luke 19:27]

• For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet.[1 Corinthians 15:25]

• From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.[Revelations 19:15]

Many Christians believe that re-establishing the Jews in Israel is a pre-condition to hasten the second coming of biblical Jesus so that the above verses of the Christian Bible can be applied. And this is the reason why even though some Jews openly spit at the Christians and Churches in Israel, they silently endure. However, it must be said that many Jews are peaceful and God-fearing people, like Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2H-F0HVKDY
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On topic, Hamas killed and behead babies because it is sanctioned in their holy texts which contain the contractual terms of their contract with God.

And this is what the Israeli government have been doing for more than half a century to the Palestinian women and children. For this, Noam Chomsky who is of Jewish background called Israel a rogue sadistic terrorist pariah state. Ten years ago, he analysed the situation in an interview. Now, ten years later his analysis is still relevant even though the situation got much worse as he anticipated. For example, he was asked to talk about the analogy between Israeli occupation of Palestine and the apartheid system of South Africa. He said:

In the occupied territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it an apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by apartheid you mean South-African style apartheid. What's happening in the occupied territories is much worse. There is a crucial difference: the south-African nationalists needed the black population, that was their workforce with 85% of the workforce of the population. They needed them, they had to sustain them. South-Africa did try to sustain them, they did not put them on a diet.
The Israeli relationship to the Palestinians in the occupied territories is totally different. They just don't want them. They want them out or at least in prison. That's a very striking difference, which means that the South-African apartheid analogy to the West Bank and occupied territories is just a gift to Israeli violence. It's much worse than that. If you look inside Israel, there is plenty of repression and discrimination. I have written about it extensively for decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HiUagHbSc0

There had been and will be killing of children and babies all over the world.
I don't believe the wanton killing of children is enacted and permitted in their Constitution of Israel.

Whereas Hamas and other Muslims killing of humans [babies, children and adult] are permitted within the contractual terms of their contract with God.

Many Western media outlet (including Reuters, the one you quoted) later retracted this fake news of the killing of babies, and Hamas itself denied the claims of these killings.

"We categorically affirm the falsehood of the fabricated allegations promoted by some Western media outlets... the latest of which was the claim of killing children, beheading them, and targeting civilians," Hamas spokesperson Izzat al-Risheq said in a statement published on the group's website.https://www.newarab.com/news/hamas-reje ... ael-attack

[Averroes]

A typical dictionary meaning;

Jew: a member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins through the ancient Hebrew people of Israel to Abraham.

Right? Wrong?

Partly right. Etymologically, Judaism comes from the name Judah who was one of the sons of Prophet Jacob(peace be upon him). Prophet Jacob(pbuh) is also known as Israel. Judah, the son of Prophet Jacob(pbuh) is the founder of the tribe of Judah. This is where Judaism originates. Jews are commonly referred to as the "Children of Israel". Therefore, Prophet Abraham(peace be upon him) was thus not a Jew nor a Christian. Allah, the Almighty says in the Holy Quran is Sarah 3:67:

• مَا كَانَ إِبْرَٰهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّۭا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّۭا وَلَـٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًۭا مُّسْلِمًۭا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ ٱلْمُشْرِكِينَ
  Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists.[Quran 3:67]

[Iwannaplato]

• مَا كَانَ إِبْرَٰهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّۭا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّۭا وَلَـٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًۭا مُّسْلِمًۭا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ ٱلْمُشْرِكِينَ
  Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists.[Quran 3:67]

But he messed up. God hoped he would refuse to kill his son. It's a misinterpreted tragedy at the heart of three religions. God doesn't want robots ready to do evil.

[Averroes]

• مَا كَانَ إِبْرَٰهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّۭا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّۭا وَلَـٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًۭا مُّسْلِمًۭا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ ٱلْمُشْرِكِينَ
  Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists.[Quran 3:67]

But he messed up. God hoped he would refuse to kill his son.

Technically, Prophet Abraham(pbuh) did not kill any one of his sons! All his sons lived after he passed away!

[Iwannaplato]

• مَا كَانَ إِبْرَٰهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّۭا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّۭا وَلَـٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًۭا مُّسْلِمًۭا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ ٱلْمُشْرِكِينَ
  Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists.[Quran 3:67]

But he messed up. God hoped he would refuse to kill his son.

Technically, Prophet Abraham(pbuh) did not kill any one of his sons! All his sons lived after he passed away!

I didn't say he killed his son. I said God hoped he would refuse to. Abraham did not refuse and was about to do it. God stopped him. God should not have had to. It's a bit different in Islam, but Abraham was ready to do it.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Who's this fuckwit apologist for baby-beheaders?

[Veritas Aequitas]

Reuters, the media you quoted and you find reasonably credible, confirmed it was fake news in that same article you referenced:

There were no images to suggest militants had beheaded babies -- a particularly explosive accusation that first emerged in Israel's media and initially confirmed by Israeli officials.

U.S. President Joseph Biden had suggested on Wednesday that he had seen images of children beheaded by militants. The White House later clarified that U.S. officials had not seen any evidence of this.

Netanyahu has not repeated a claim by his office earlier this week that Hamas had indeed cut off the heads of children, nor did Gallant repeat that accusation to NATO ministers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/nato-mini ... 023-10-12/

Re one's Moral Compass, I am surprised you did not condemned the evil acts of Hamas?
If you are Sunni [?] why are you supporting the Shias? Given a chance, a compliant Sunni will not hesistate to kill Shia Muslims as evident.

While the beheading is contestable and with no official confirmation, it does not make Hamas innocent that they have killed many children, old people. etc. as evident by the pictures shown to the American authorities.

Blinken, who flew into Tel Aviv earlier on Thursday, told reporters he was shown photographs and videos of a baby riddled with bullets, soldiers beheaded and young people burned alive in their cars or hideaways.

"It's simply depravity in the worst imaginable way," Blinken told a news briefing. "Images are worth a thousand words. These images may be worth a million."
ibid

The Hadiths are not part of the contractual terms ALL Muslims had entered into a contract [covenant] with Allah.
Thus whatever are in the Hadiths are merely guides and not obligatory.

Authentic Hadith(narrations) of Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) are to be followed in Islam because Allah, the Almighty says in the Holy Quran in Surah 4, ayat/verse 59:

يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ أَطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا۟ ٱلرَّسُولَ وَأُو۟لِى ٱلْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَـٰزَعْتُمْ فِى شَىْءٍۢ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَٱلرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْـَٔاخِرِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌۭ وَأَحْسَنُ

O you who have believed, obey Allāh and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allāh and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allāh and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.
[Saheeh International translation, 4:59]

And in Surah 59 verse 7, Allah, the All-Knowing says:

وَمَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمُ ٱلرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَىٰكُمْ عَنْهُ فَٱنتَهُوا۟ ۚ وَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ ۖ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ شَدِيدُ ٱلْعِقَابِ
Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it. And whatever he forbids you from, leave it. And fear Allah. Surely Allah is severe in punishment.

The above are heavily contested by the Quran-Only believers.
I don't have their argument on hand, but I recall they are very convincing.

The credibility of the Hadiths are very questionable since they were written a few hundred years after the death of Muhammad.
Bukhari's Hadiths 7000+ are screened from 70,000.

But re Islam the Quran is the most credible and the terms of contract for a Muslim to comply are all therein, including 5:33 and all other supporting verses of evil directed at non-believers.

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All Christians signed a contract with Jesus and God [John 3:16] where the terms of the contract are only in the Gospels. The overriding moral maxim of the Gospels is 'love all, even enemies' as such it imply no humans ought to be killed else one would have sinned.
Whatever are in the OT, Acts and Epistles are merely appendixes and guides to the contract thus not obligatory.

Did you know that according to the Christian Bible it is written that when biblical Jesus returns, he will subdue and kill those who do not believe in him? The following are some example passages of the New Testament of the Christian Bible, but there are more bearing the same message:

• But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”[Luke 19:27]

• For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet.[1 Corinthians 15:25]

• From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.[Revelations 19:15]

Many Christians believe that re-establishing the Jews in Israel is a pre-condition to hasten the second coming of biblical Jesus so that the above verses of the Christian Bible can be applied. And this is the reason why even though some Jews openly spit at the Christians and Churches in Israel, they silently endure. However, it must be said that many Jews are peaceful and God-fearing people, like Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2H-F0HVKDY

I have come across the above is contested.

God being omniscient would not have contradicted is overriding maxim in the Gospels re 'love all, even enemies'.

There had been and will be killing of children and babies all over the world.
I don't believe the wanton killing of children is enacted and permitted in their Constitution of Israel.

Whereas Hamas and other Muslims killing of humans [babies, children and adult] are permitted within the contractual terms of their contract with God.

Many Western media outlet (including Reuters, the one you quoted) later retracted this fake news of the killing of babies, and Hamas itself denied the claims of these killings.

"We categorically affirm the falsehood of the fabricated allegations promoted by some Western media outlets... the latest of which was the claim of killing children, beheading them, and targeting civilians," Hamas spokesperson Izzat al-Risheq said in a statement published on the group's website.https://www.newarab.com/news/hamas-reje ... ael-attack

OK, there is no confirmation of beheadings.

However, 5:33 is a open passport for Muslims to commit evils on non-believers on the conditions of the slightest threats [fasadin].

[vegetariantaxidermy]

FFS Everyone knows it's true. What denotes 'proof'? How does one prove 'anything'? There's no 'proof' that Donald Trump is an actual person. I've never seen him in the flesh.

[Averroes]

Abraham did not refuse and was about to do it. God stopped him.

Indeed, God, the Almighty has power over all things.

It's a bit different in Islam, but Abraham was ready to do it.

Not only was Abraham(pbuh) ready to do the sacrifice but also his then only son Ishmael(pbuh) was ready to be sacrificed by his father! Both were ready and accepting of the sacrifice had God not intervened. Allah, the Almighty says in the Holy Quran:

فَلَمَّا بَلَغَ مَعَهُ ٱلسَّعْىَ قَالَ يَـٰبُنَىَّ إِنِّىٓ أَرَىٰ فِى ٱلْمَنَامِ أَنِّىٓ أَذْبَحُكَ فَٱنظُرْ مَاذَا تَرَىٰ ۚ قَالَ يَـٰٓأَبَتِ ٱفْعَلْ مَا تُؤْمَرُ ۖ سَتَجِدُنِىٓ إِن شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ مِنَ ٱلصَّـٰبِرِينَ
Then when the boy reached the age to work with him, Abraham said, “O my dear son! I have seen in a dream that I ˹must˺ sacrifice you. So tell me what you think.” He replied, “O my dear father! Do as you are commanded. Allah willing, you will find me steadfast.”

فَلَمَّآ أَسْلَمَا وَتَلَّهُۥ لِلْجَبِينِ
Then when they submitted ˹to Allah’s Will˺, and Abraham laid him on the side of his forehead ˹for sacrifice˺,

وَنَـٰدَيْنَـٰهُ أَن يَـٰٓإِبْرَٰهِيمُ
We called out to him, “O Abraham!

قَدْ صَدَّقْتَ ٱلرُّءْيَآ ۚ إِنَّا كَذَٰلِكَ نَجْزِى ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ
You have already fulfilled the vision.” Indeed, this is how We reward the good-doers.

إِنَّ هَـٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْبَلَـٰٓؤُا۟ ٱلْمُبِينُ
That was truly a revealing test.

وَفَدَيْنَـٰهُ بِذِبْحٍ عَظِيمٍۢ
And We ransomed his son with a great sacrifice,

وَتَرَكْنَا عَلَيْهِ فِى ٱلْـَٔاخِرِينَ
and blessed Abraham ˹with honourable mention˺ among later generations:

سَلَـٰمٌ عَلَىٰٓ إِبْرَٰهِيمَ
“Peace be upon Abraham.” [Quran 37:102-109]


Both Prophet Abraham and his son Prophet Ishmael(peace be upon them) understood that the command of God the Almighty was to be followed and they both achieved great success in the sight of the Almighty.

May Allah The Most High make me and all Muslims of those who achieve great success in His Sight. Ameen

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Abraham did not refuse and was about to do it. God stopped him.

Indeed, God, the Almighty has power over all things.

It's a bit different in Islam, but Abraham was ready to do it.

Not only was Abraham(pbuh) ready to do the sacrifice but also his then only son Ishmael(pbuh) was ready to be sacrificed by his father! Both were ready and accepting of the sacrifice had God not intervened. Allah, the Almighty says in the Holy Quran:

فَلَمَّا بَلَغَ مَعَهُ ٱلسَّعْىَ قَالَ يَـٰبُنَىَّ إِنِّىٓ أَرَىٰ فِى ٱلْمَنَامِ أَنِّىٓ أَذْبَحُكَ فَٱنظُرْ مَاذَا تَرَىٰ ۚ قَالَ يَـٰٓأَبَتِ ٱفْعَلْ مَا تُؤْمَرُ ۖ سَتَجِدُنِىٓ إِن شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ مِنَ ٱلصَّـٰبِرِينَ
Then when the boy reached the age to work with him, Abraham said, “O my dear son! I have seen in a dream that I ˹must˺ sacrifice you. So tell me what you think.” He replied, “O my dear father! Do as you are commanded. Allah willing, you will find me steadfast.”

فَلَمَّآ أَسْلَمَا وَتَلَّهُۥ لِلْجَبِينِ
Then when they submitted ˹to Allah’s Will˺, and Abraham laid him on the side of his forehead ˹for sacrifice˺,

وَنَـٰدَيْنَـٰهُ أَن يَـٰٓإِبْرَٰهِيمُ
We called out to him, “O Abraham!

قَدْ صَدَّقْتَ ٱلرُّءْيَآ ۚ إِنَّا كَذَٰلِكَ نَجْزِى ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ
You have already fulfilled the vision.” Indeed, this is how We reward the good-doers.

إِنَّ هَـٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْبَلَـٰٓؤُا۟ ٱلْمُبِينُ
That was truly a revealing test.

وَفَدَيْنَـٰهُ بِذِبْحٍ عَظِيمٍۢ
And We ransomed his son with a great sacrifice,

وَتَرَكْنَا عَلَيْهِ فِى ٱلْـَٔاخِرِينَ
and blessed Abraham ˹with honourable mention˺ among later generations:

سَلَـٰمٌ عَلَىٰٓ إِبْرَٰهِيمَ
“Peace be upon Abraham.” [Quran 37:102-109]


Both Prophet Abraham and his son Prophet Ishmael(peace be upon them) understood that the command of God the Almighty was to be followed and they both achieved great success in the sight of the Almighty.

May Allah The Most High make me and all Muslims of those who achieve great success in His Sight. Ameen

[Iwannaplato]

Not only was Abraham(pbuh) ready to do the sacrifice but also his then only son Ishmael(pbuh) was ready to be sacrificed by his father! Both were ready and accepting of the sacrifice had God not intervened. Allah, the Almighty says in the Holy Quran:

Yes, and they were wrong to think this was loving. Loving of God. Loving of Life. Loving in General. They were confused, both of them and what is God and what is love and this has gone on for a long time. Humans are fallible. I would guess given the way you cite the Koran that it is completely impossible for you to question what has been written there. It is completely impossible that a human might have misinterpreted for psychological/cultural reasons and written incorrectly. It is a foundation of your belief that this is not possible, that the Koran could be mistaken about anything.

And so discussion is utterly impossible.

I think it is sad that people still think that Abraham was right to be ready to kill on God's order, like he was a robot for God. The loving option would have been to say 'No.' That would have pleased any loving God.

And we can see in the world right now what it leads to when people cut off parts of themselves and follow voices that tell them to kill. And I am not focusing on any particular side.

Abraham made a huge mistake when he decided to go along with the order to kill his son. And his son also had guilt instead of love that made him think he had to go along with this.

It is one of the great tragedies of humankind.

If you can't feel this, what can you feel?